Filling Water Protocol

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Ok - is it just me ??

I have 3 horses - the taps are all frozen bar 1. We all wait our turn in a que, me behind 3 others, each filling water buckets and canister's. It then becomes my turn - well as I am filling my giant water bucket in the wheel barrow and my 2 canister's I get a constant stream of people "can I just do my water - I only have 1 bucket to do and you have got all that" - "oh can I just nip in and fill my water can as I only need to top up my waters and then I can go home.... gosh you will be here for ages with all that to do won't you?"

Really..... oh and the reaction if you say - erm well no not really.... .

Is there some thing I am missing....
 
I admit I stood in stunned silence when a fellow livery took the hose out of my 3/4 full bucket and filled her bucket. I only piped up when she went to turn the tap off. Hopefully she felt a bit sheepish when I piped up “erm, I haven’t finished yet”
 
Auslander said:
I would be inclined to fill up one container during busy periods, then do the rest when there weren't so many people around.
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I have 3 large horses whom need water, yard water is busy from 3pm until 6.30pm, yard school is busy from 3 until 7pm, so as soon as I get to yard my priority is exercise for the horses, then the water's. However I cannot see what makes me doing 3 any different to 3 owners doing 1? when people will happily que and chat to 3 different owners without wanting to push in.
 
little_critter said:
I admit I stood in stunned silence when a fellow livery took the hose out of my 3/4 full bucket and filled her bucket. I only piped up when she went to turn the tap off. Hopefully she felt a bit sheepish when I piped up “erm, I haven’t finished yet”
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I can beat that one - one of my filled canisters was "borrowed" and brought back to me empty..... well I was going to be their ages anyway wasn't I ??
 
Gingerwitch said:
Ok - is it just me ??

I have 3 horses - the taps are all frozen bar 1. We all wait our turn in a que, me behind 3 others, each filling water buckets and canister's. It then becomes my turn - well as I am filling my giant water bucket in the wheel barrow and my 2 canister's I get a constant stream of people "can I just do my water - I only have 1 bucket to do and you have got all that" - "oh can I just nip in and fill my water can as I only need to top up my waters and then I can go home.... gosh you will be here for ages with all that to do won't you?"

Really..... oh and the reaction if you say - erm well no not really.... .

Is there some thing I am missing....
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When it was like this in a past yard I had to bring my canisters from home as yard owner would not let me use the garage tap, which was the only one un frozen.


At this yard We installed two yard taps above the hand basin taps in the coffee room and a short hose to connected to it to enable wetting hay and filling buckets.
 
Gingerwitch said:
I get a constant stream of people "can I just do my water - I only have 1 bucket to do and you have got all that"
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No, it's not just you, and it's not just water at a yard. It's an overblown sense of entitlement that is all too common. :rolleyes3:

It happens in the supermarket, when I've been waiting in the queue for fifteen minutes with my basket of exactly nine items (at the "ten or fewer" checkout). For sure, there have been a couple of people with twelve or so items who say "oh, sorry... I didn't realise I'd picked up four of those instead of just one". That's if the cachier even says anything. At last, there's just one person about to pay in front of me, and a woman walks up and says, "can I? I only have this bottle of milk, and i'm in a hurry...". Are you pregnant? NO. Do you have trouble walking? NO. I saw you scuttle over here with all the agility, energy, grace and honesty of a ferret. So, NO. I have stuff to do, too. Take your place in the queue, or go to the little corner shop where your milk will cost 50% more but there's no queue. :mad:

It happens in the bakery when there are four people in front of me and a man blusters in and shouts straight to the girls behind the counter "can I get a stick of bread, please? I'm double parked out there". NO! **** off! You chose double park and to put on your bread lights (AKA hazard warning lights, flashers), now take your place in the queue or, preferably, just GTFO! :mad:

I'd take along a two-way manifold (even easier if the yard tap has a Gardena quick fitting) and fill the two canisters like that. Doesn't matter if the canisters don't fill up twice as fast, the people around will get the impression that it's going more quickly, and might be a little less obnoxious.
 
Keith_Beef said:
No, it's not just you, and it's not just water at a yard. It's an overblown sense of entitlement that is all too common. :rolleyes3:

It happens in the supermarket, when I've been waiting in the queue for fifteen minutes with my basket of exactly nine items (at the "ten or fewer" checkout). For sure, there have been a couple of people with twelve or so items who say "oh, sorry... I didn't realise I'd picked up four of those instead of just one". That's if the cachier even says anything. At last, there's just one person about to pay in front of me, and a woman walks up and says, "can I? I only have this bottle of milk, and i'm in a hurry...". Are you pregnant? NO. Do you have trouble walking? NO. I saw you scuttle over here with all the agility, energy, grace and honesty of a ferret. So, NO. I have stuff to do, too. Take your place in the queue, or go to the little corner shop where your milk will cost 50% more but there's no queue. :mad:
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I'm often happy enough to let someone through with a couple of things if I've got a lot, but some people do take the proverbial, and my time is precious too.

I also hate it (and it happened yesterday), when you are unloading your trolley onto the belt, and the next person comes along and puts the divider across just behind your shopping and puts their own stuff on the belt, the checkout person can't start beeping because you are not there to pack your stuff, and you now have nowhere for the rest of your trolley contents to go.
 
oooohhhh not at all horsey related but I was patiently waiting for a car to pull out of a space in a busy shopping centre and this range rover pulled into my space... THE WOMAN SMILED AND WAVED AT ME?!?!!?
 
Rowreach, the thing about people putting stuff on the belt at the supermarket whilst you are still unloading your own shopping has happened several times to me recently. Is it a new thing? I now stop what I am doing and order the miscreant to take back their goods before I continue with my own.
 
Tiddlypom said:
Rowreach, the thing about people putting stuff on the belt at the supermarket whilst you are still unloading your own shopping has happened several times to me recently. Is it a new thing? I now stop what I am doing and order the miscreant to take back their goods before I continue with my own.
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It's symptomatic of the times I think! I did point out to the person yesterday that they'd have a lot longer to wait if I couldn't actually get my shopping through the checkout.

Nobody has any patience anymore, and common courtesy seems to have gone out of the window.
 
stormox said:
This. Its a bit unfair to hog the tap
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Well no, if the OP is filling up for 3 horses, it's the same as 3 people filling up for one. Or in the case of my shopping trolley scenario, I am shopping for 3 people and the person behind me may only be shopping for one, but that doesn't mean I should divide my shopping into three parts and come back twice more to put it through the checkout ...
 
stormox said:
This. Its a bit unfair to hog the tap
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It's not hogging the tap, though. :rolleyes3:

Rowreach said:
Well no, if the OP is filling up for 3 horses, it's the same as 3 people filling up for one. Or in the case of my shopping trolley scenario, I am shopping for 3 people and the person behind me may only be shopping for one, but that doesn't mean I should divide my shopping into three parts and come back twice more to put it through the checkout ...
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And I don't whinge and complain when the home-help in front of me is shopping for two households and paying twice because she needs two distinct receipts.

But maybe that's a distraction from the question of this population of people who think that we should always accommodate their impatience.

You know, if you walk up to the front of a queue and ask that one person who is second in line "can I just push in here, because I'm only going to be a minute", don't you think that's a bit rude to the other eight people behind?

It's the way the queuing system works. If you want to get something (water, groceries, whatever) and it works on a "first come, first served, queue" basis, then you know the drill: you turn up in plenty of time, and you join the queue (if there is one).

You don't wait until the last moment, roll up and try to push your way in.

Well, you can try it if you're a chronically disorganized idiot who thinks that a cute smile can get anything forgiven.

I have no patience for impatient people. :p
 
I dont think people agree with pushing in in this situation, but with a water supply usually people are only allowed to fill what they can carry. We had a standpipe for water last time there was a drought and I think people would have got very annoyed if someone had turned up with a massive container in a wheelbarrow!!
 
WeeLassie said:
I dont think people agree with pushing in in this situation, but with a water supply usually people are only allowed to fill what they can carry. We had a standpipe for water last time there was a drought and I think people would have got very annoyed if someone had turned up with a massive container in a wheelbarrow!!
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During a drought, the reason for the standpipe is to ration the water supply, so it is perhaps normal to limit what each person can take.

Whether you issue ration cards and guard the standpipe and stamp or punch the card, or you put in place a rule of "you can only take what you can carry", the intent is the same.

And I'm sure that even with that rule, there would be complaints if I turned up with Dutch yoke and two 25litre drums, or with a 50 litre drum on my back.

In the OP's situation, we're not even, strictly speaking, talking about the water that people want, we're talking about drinking water for horses.

Having a single tap for the water is a bit bad, though. Maybe fitting a two-way or four-way manifold with short lengths of hose would keep everybody happy (or at least a bit less unhappy).
 
If I wasn’t in a rush, id probably let someone jump in to fill something smaller, but if I had work to get to etc, id tell them I couldn’t wait and I’d fill my whole thing up.

Not quite the same but recently someone was using my watering can in the barn that I fill to save me time in the evening, and then leaving it empty. So I was making life easy for someone, just not me!

A little note on the can sorted that out, I don’t mind anyone using things, but I expect them to be left as they were found ie full!
 
If I was at your yard and knew you did water for all 3 horses at once, but also knew that your priority was exercise, then as soon as I saw you there I would do the water as MY priority and leave it outside the stable if necessary.

If I knew I would be backlogged behind someone doing for 3 horses, and the water tap was the bottleneck, no way would I be in the position where I had done everything else except the water.

The last time I was in a livery water queue situation we would queue the buckets up and as one person finished they would put the first bucket of the next person under and gve them a shout so they could come and stand with it. We were far too busy to actually queue with water buckets when we could line up the buckets and get on with mucking out.

Like the queues I have seen in another country where the queue is with shoes, and the occupants of the shoes are sitting down an a bench.
 
Red-1 said:
The last time I was in a livery water queue situation we would queue the buckets up and as one person finished they would put the first bucket of the next person under and gve them a shout so they could come and stand with it.
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Sounds like a great idea. Let the buckets queue up, rather than the people.
 
if someone took the hose out of my part filled bucket they would soon find it squirting down their neck!
 
I don't know where you all live, but up here in Yorkshire, we tend to be pretty great at queuing, in the stables or at the supermarket alike! I've never once had anyone to try to push in anywhere, so don't think we can really say it's symptomatic of society as a whole. And yes, I'm one of the younger generation/instant gratification culture that seems to so clearly be the problem! :D
 
JJS said:
I don't know where you all live, but up here in Yorkshire, we tend to be pretty great at queuing, in the stables or at the supermarket alike! I've never once had anyone to try to push in anywhere, so don't think we can really say it's symptomatic of society as a whole. And yes, I'm one of the younger generation/instant gratification culture that seems to so clearly be the problem! :D
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I'm from Yorkshire, but I've lived for a long time in France...

Queuing here is a bit hit and miss. In some places, it works relatively well, but there are always people trying to push in, like I described in an earlier reply in this thread.

And old people are often worse than the young. The young just don't go to places where there are queues (other than fast-food places).

I used to think that old people would have leant patience and wisdom. In small towns and villages, that's still often the case, but in the town where I live and in Paris they are among the most arrogant and impatient people I've ever seen.
 
People seem to believe that they have a right not to be delayed in any way these days. What happened to patience? Its why people get so angry when even slightly held up on the roads too and why people pull dangerous overtaking stunts. Just absolute entitlement without a thought for others.

It gets me raging. :lol:

If somebody literally needed a quarter bucket for grooming or soaking feeds or something then I'd let them nip in cos that just a few seconds but anyone filling a full bucket would be told to wait their turn. Yards I've been on where there is water supply bottle necks we've always queued the buckets as described upthread.
 
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