Finally got an answer for my mare’s behaviour!

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I bought my girl as a 2 year old as my next forever horse! She is ID x Welsh. She was unhandled so it took a while to get her leading/ tying up, picking up hooves etc. I then sent her off to be backed lightly last February for 6 weeks when she was rising 4. No problems backing her and when she got home, I started hacking her lightly and then early Summer introduced a weekly arena session (20 mins) just walk with tiny bit of trot. All going well apart from going a bit backward thinking hacking and wanting to follow rather than lead and also a bit girthy. She then had a massive bucking episode in the arena which I put down to saddle which had slipped forward, left her for a few weeks and did groundwork while waiting to get saddle checked. Back on her, but still seemed backward thinking and reluctant to lead out hacking and a bit nappy. She was barefoot as was a bit tricky having hooves trimmed with farrier so decided to leave shoeing her until 5 and in more work.
Got back on her in Feb with no problems at all. Decided to use a Total Contact Saddle until she muscled up properly. Then built up hacking where she was going well, although still preferring to follow rather than lead. Started arena work in walk and introduced trot. Then took her for her first lesson where she was fab and lovely and forward. Finally thought we were going somewhere!
Then suddenly she started getting aggressive with picking up hooves and putting saddle on. She then came in from the field looking miserable and reactive so called the vet! She thought potentially EMS so tested her, gave her Bute and on strict diet until the results came back. Also potentially thought hormones or ulcers (very good doer so not typical candidate)!
Anyway tested negative for EMS! Then did hoof x - rays as she looked sore on hooves, put shoes on under sedation. She was still very aggressive tacking up although felt more forward to ride. Then down to vets to be scoped- grade 2 squamous and glandular ulcers! She was trotted up and looked off on right hand so back the following week for performance work up! She was then found to have juvenile hock arthritis which is worse in the right hock. Had it medicated with steroids and then a Tilden infusion. She was having the weekly omeprazole injection. Just been rescoped and ulcers nearly gone, just a bit of redness left in glandular. And also looking so much sounder in back end. Also the girthiness has gone and she is so forward to ride, happily taking the lead and no napping!
In hindsight, she must have been in pain, struggling since she was backed and I feel awful about that! It was easy to blame the lack of forwardness, girthiness, napping, bucking episodes on the saddle and also being a youngster. Lots of people said she was trying it on with me! But all my poor girl was doing was trying to communicate she was in pain😭 I’m now fairly confident that I can tell when she is starting to feel sore and then we can look at other treatments for the hock arthritis. Whatever happens, she has a home for life with me and I will do everything I possibly can to keep her comfortable and happy!
How easy is it though to blame behaviour issues on the horse trying it on, being a youngster etc! Also the saddle being the issue rather than looking at other pain factors!
This whole experience has definitely been a huge learning experience!
 
But you did listen to her! It took me years to work out that my Welsh DxTB mare that bought as a 4 yr old was allergic to cereals and sugar (we might well call it EMS/PSSM nowadays).
So well done!
I just wish that I had managed to work out her issues last year! Hindsight is a wonderful thing🙈
 
What a fab owner you are. You listened , and have done the right thing by her. Ive been going through something similar with one of my homebreds. So totally understand how you feel.
Shes lucky to have you in her corner
I hope you can work out what’s wrong with yours! 🥰 It’s so hard! I did send a mane sample to a lovely lady who does radionics! She pinpointed all the issues- sore hooves, glandular ulcers, issues in right hind, saddle slipping to the right! Then obviously I got vet to investigate!
 
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I hope you can work out what’s wrong with yours! 🥰 It’s so hard! I did send a mane sample to a lovely lady who does radionics! She pinpointed all the issues- sore hooves, glandular ulcers, issues in right hind, saddle slipping to the right! Then obviously I got vet to investigate!
that sounds interesting. Never thought you could find that out by a hair sample. Oh we now know whats wrong with my 3yo. Fractured pelvis to the right , and damaged muscles/tendons /SI on the left. plus the bit the joins the pelvis is also mashed up. This is after me having him vetted a few months ago, and passing as sound. ( i always vet my own horses before selling )
 
I bought my girl as a 2 year old as my next forever horse! She is ID x Welsh. She was unhandled so it took a while to get her leading/ tying up, picking up hooves etc. I then sent her off to be backed lightly last February for 6 weeks when she was rising 4. No problems backing her and when she got home, I started hacking her lightly and then early Summer introduced a weekly arena session (20 mins) just walk with tiny bit of trot. All going well apart from going a bit backward thinking hacking and wanting to follow rather than lead and also a bit girthy. She then had a massive bucking episode in the arena which I put down to saddle which had slipped forward, left her for a few weeks and did groundwork while waiting to get saddle checked. Back on her, but still seemed backward thinking and reluctant to lead out hacking and a bit nappy. She was barefoot as was a bit tricky having hooves trimmed with farrier so decided to leave shoeing her until 5 and in more work.
Got back on her in Feb with no problems at all. Decided to use a Total Contact Saddle until she muscled up properly. Then built up hacking where she was going well, although still preferring to follow rather than lead. Started arena work in walk and introduced trot. Then took her for her first lesson where she was fab and lovely and forward. Finally thought we were going somewhere!
Then suddenly she started getting aggressive with picking up hooves and putting saddle on. She then came in from the field looking miserable and reactive so called the vet! She thought potentially EMS so tested her, gave her Bute and on strict diet until the results came back. Also potentially thought hormones or ulcers (very good doer so not typical candidate)!
Anyway tested negative for EMS! Then did hoof x - rays as she looked sore on hooves, put shoes on under sedation. She was still very aggressive tacking up although felt more forward to ride. Then down to vets to be scoped- grade 2 squamous and glandular ulcers! She was trotted up and looked off on right hand so back the following week for performance work up! She was then found to have juvenile hock arthritis which is worse in the right hock. Had it medicated with steroids and then a Tilden infusion. She was having the weekly omeprazole injection. Just been rescoped and ulcers nearly gone, just a bit of redness left in glandular. And also looking so much sounder in back end. Also the girthiness has gone and she is so forward to ride, happily taking the lead and no napping!
In hindsight, she must have been in pain, struggling since she was backed and I feel awful about that! It was easy to blame the lack of forwardness, girthiness, napping, bucking episodes on the saddle and also being a youngster. Lots of people said she was trying it on with me! But all my poor girl was doing was trying to communicate she was in pain😭 I’m now fairly confident that I can tell when she is starting to feel sore and then we can look at other treatments for the hock arthritis. Whatever happens, she has a home for life with me and I will do everything I possibly can to keep her comfortable and happy!
How easy is it though to blame behaviour issues on the horse trying it on, being a youngster etc! Also the saddle being the issue rather than looking at other pain factors!
This whole experience has definitely been a huge learning experience!
My little mare at 5 started to become uncharacteristically difficult to ride.I too was told that she was "trying it on".Physiotherapist begged to differ.Said she has a very painful neck.Treatment done.Returned to her normal placid self.
 
that sounds interesting. Never thought you could find that out by a hair sample. Oh we now know whats wrong with my 3yo. Fractured pelvis to the right , and damaged muscles/tendons /SI on the left. plus the bit the joins the pelvis is also mashed up. This is after me having him vetted a few months ago, and passing as sound. ( i always vet my own horses before selling )
Oh god! Hope it’s fixable!
I sent her mane sample, a picture and then said she was being aggressive to tack up! Not sure how she does it but I know a few people who have used her and she has been spot on!
 
Glad you’ve gotten to the bottom of it. Well done you.

Mine has just had her first session with an INIBA machine this week for her hocks and did a bit around her SI joint as well. She felt much more forward yesterday when I took her out.

I would be very interested to know who you sent your hair sample to if you’d be happy to send a PM. Sounds intriguing
 
At least now you know!

My golden rule is that they have to look happy and at peace in the field and should be happy about being caught to ride/tack up etc (once past initial backing stage). I also expect consistent measurable progress that sticks. Once they are happy with a thing they should stay happy with that thing. Going nowhere/backwards = a vet visit!
 
Glad you’ve gotten to the bottom of it. Well done you.

Mine has just had her first session with an INIBA machine this week for her hocks and did a bit around her SI joint as well. She felt much more forward yesterday when I took her out.

I would be very interested to know who you sent your hair sample to if you’d be happy to send a PM. Sounds intriguing
Oh, my girl is starting on Indiba treatment in 2 weeks time!
I will pm you details of hair lady!
 
I hope you can work out what’s wrong with yours! 🥰 It’s so hard! I did send a mane sample to a lovely lady who does radionics! She pinpointed all the issues- sore hooves, glandular ulcers, issues in right hind, saddle slipping to the right! Then obviously I got vet to investigate!
Would you mind PMing me too? Im having a few issues with my mare
 
Well done for listening to your horse and having her properly investigated. So many owners don’t do this and the poor horse just ends up screaming at them but getting blamed for being 'difficult'
I hope you continue to make good progress and have many years of fun with her
 
I hope you can work out what’s wrong with yours! 🥰 It’s so hard! I did send a mane sample to a lovely lady who does radionics! She pinpointed all the issues- sore hooves, glandular ulcers, issues in right hind, saddle slipping to the right! Then obviously I got vet to investigate!
Was the radionics woman in Ireland by any chance? There’s one here that has fantastic results with humans, and she does animals too. I just happened upon her on YouTube while researching radionics.
It’s worthwhile to venture into radionics diagnosis initially if a horse has mysterious stuff going on…just to help pinpoint where to scan/xray/treat.

It works in the same way as the quantum physics aspect of ‘spooky action at a distance’. Not dissimilar to how twins subconsciously communicate to one another, or the experiments where they send cells from any living thing to another place, then the host is experiencing pain say, the cells in a lab elsewhere emit pain signals too.

One of the first pioneers to launch radionics was a woman called Ruth Drown decades ago, and was imprisoned at the time (aswell as collegues) for healing people instead of using the preferred quackery of the time!

So glad to hear it helped point your diagnostic journey into a result to heal and your mare is feeling much better. She’s a lucky horse to have you 🙂

ETA - radionics for humans/animals is commonly called ‘Bioresonance’ these days, using radionics based hardware. If you google ‘bioresonance practitioners’ in your area you’ll like have better luck than googling radionics term alone.
 
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Was the radionics woman in Ireland by any chance? There’s one here that has fantastic results with humans, and she does animals too. I just happened upon her on YouTube while researching radionics.
It’s worthwhile to venture into radionics diagnosis initially if a horse has mysterious stuff going on…just to help pinpoint where to scan/xray/treat.

It works in the same way as the quantum physics aspect of ‘spooky action at a distance’. Not dissimilar to how twins subconsciously communicate to one another, or the experiments where they send cells from any living thing to another place, then the host is experiencing pain say, the cells in a lab elsewhere emit pain signals too.

One of the first pioneers to launch radionics was a woman called Ruth Drown decades ago, and was imprisoned at the time (aswell as collegues) for healing people instead of using the preferred quackery of the time!

So glad to hear it helped point your diagnostic journey into a result to heal and your mare is feeling much better. She’s a lucky horse to have you 🙂
This lady is in the East of the UK. She has been brilliant and so supportive too! She told me lots of other things about my girl which totally make sense!
The hair analysis definitely helped me decide to scope and then do performance work up.
 
Well done for listening to your horse and having her properly investigated. So many owners don’t do this and the poor horse just ends up screaming at them but getting blamed for being 'difficult'
I hope you continue to make good progress and have many years of fun with her
Thanks, I’m just so sad though at the age of 5 that her ridden career is so unsure🥲
 
This lady is in the East of the UK. She has been brilliant and so supportive too! She told me lots of other things about my girl which totally make sense!
The hair analysis definitely helped me decide to scope and then do performance work up.
Could you pm me the lady’s details as well please?
 
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