Finding a horse on NED?

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ChasingTheDream

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I've typed in my gelding passport number, and I have found him on NED; so I decided to look at his dam and sire, but NED can't find his dam, is this normal?

She's called Classic Storm is anyone wants to just check its not just me :o

Thanks :) xxx
 
Hi there, is NED the only place you can trace a horse through passport details? I've tried tracing a horse with just a freezemark number and they're not on NED so I was hoping there was another database to search.
 
lh1975 said:
Hi there, is NED the only place you can trace a horse through passport details? I've tried tracing a horse with just a freezemark number and they're not on NED so I was hoping there was another database to search.
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Freezemarks are only on NED if added by the owner themselves under 'USER ENTERED' but a horse can then be found by putting in the freezemark number

There are 3 freezemark companies
Farmkey
Freezemark
Northern Brand at Penrith

Not sure if they will be able to help but worth a try
 
Depp_by_Chocolate said:
Also depends if a passport was issued as I had this problem when trying to find my mares sire. He is mentioned on NED as her sire but if I search for him separately it won't bring him up and there are no other details on him. He is a pure bred Welsh Cob too.
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Instead of putting all your mares name in just put prefix in to search
List of all of that prefix will come up
Find your mare then click on stallion link
Worth a try
If not contact WPCS
 
The problems NED have were well explained at a recent Data Providers meeting and this goes back to 2005 when DEFRA did not require the 15 digit UELN as mandatory and allowed PIOs to submit data by their own internal method even though they accepted that the UELN as as the industry standard. I also find strange things happen you put in the passport number and nothing comes up but you put in the horses name and it comes up with the passport number. Celia Clarke put in a lot of voluntary work to help the NED board sort out stallions original number and this is showing results even though she is not a member of the board. I have complained to Graham Sugget and Nick Wallbridge that they did not have any studbook PIOs on the board who understood how the UK and EU studbooks work and they have wasted a lot of time trying to identify horses by name which was always going to be futile. If you search a database for a horse you only know some things for certain. The colour,sex,any brand marks and the approximate age so the search box needs to start with those facts with a spread for the age from the lowest to the highest. After that the search can be refined with Sire,Dam or breed if there is any hard information on that subject. Ther more information you have the smaller list of horses you will end up with. The height is of little use as all horses have to registered in the year of birth.
 
Although many people have put time in trying to make the system work quite frankly it doesnt.
Many passports have no DOB, no colour, no height
I saw a Richard Steel (Southhall Market) one, now defunct, it just said chestnut mare, no whorls nothing else.
These people took owners money for what? they are not worth the paper they are written on.

Dealers who turn horses over quickly do not update, so horses can move round the country through several owners with no traceability.

Responsible dealers who buy to bring on or put condition on a skinny horse end up paying to update knowing that TS could come calling but they could miss a sale if passport is away.
 
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