'first time xc only broken 5 days!'

[cobalobM]

can't believe what I have just watched..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0o_Eyo6Rho&index=106&list=UUlREvNNJTW6A9KkOdReEX2g

I don't normally bi**h on here or bad mouth people but this is something else...

 

[Auslander]

Looks happy enough to me - going sweetly and popping everything happily. Some horses are "born broke".

 

[Tash88]

There are unfortunately a lot of ignorant people involved with horses; it's bad enough that she's doing that to the poor pony, never mind the fact that she appears rather heavy and not much of a rider. I suppose she thinks that it will make people want to buy him.

 

[JJS]

If he's only been broken for 5 days, then it makes me wonder how old he is as much as anything else. A 3 year old doing cross country really doesn't sit well with me (however, I do acknowledge that he could be older).

 

[Claire-R]

*sigh*

 

[ester]

google tells me there is a 'dun dealers' - on another of their vids and an Imperial horses link - aka kate thurston?

eta - think poss different imperial?

 

[LadyRascasse]

google tells me there is a 'dun dealers' - on another of their vids and an Imperial horses link - aka kate thurston?

Yes Ester that is who it is, well known for the 'it doesn't want to be broken' video

 

[Walrus]

How depressing - mine is 9 and has been broken 4.5 years and we don't go that sweetly!

 

[ester]

yes appears I was right, was getting confused with location

https://www.facebook.com/PalominosForSaleInPeterborough/info

 

[samlf]

Looks happy enough to me - going sweetly and popping everything happily. Some horses are "born broke".

Must admit I thought similar.

However, there's no way it can be physically fit enough.

 

[FestiveFuzz]

Must admit I thought similar.

However, there's no way it can be physically fit enough.

Yes, whilst I wish H would go that sweetly I can't help thinking its poor muscles wouldn't be up to it after just 5 days of being broken.

 

[3Beasties]

There are unfortunately a lot of ignorant people involved with horses; it's bad enough that she's doing that to the poor pony, never mind the fact that she appears rather heavy and not much of a rider. I suppose she thinks that it will make people want to buy him.

It worries me that you think she is too heavy, I wouldn't have said that at all.

 

[Casey76]

That's a heck of a lot of jumping for a green broke horse! And no leg protection either

 

[Annagain]

I don't believe that pony has only been broken 5 days. Apart from anything, his steering is way too good, that canter, whilst far from perfect is too balanced for a real baby and there's not one second look or babyish jump in there. He knows what he's doing. If they're dealers, I imagine they're trying to make out he's doing that after just 5 days to suggest he's very easy to train and bump his price up (not that a horse doing XC after 5 days would be attractive to me)

 

[eggs]

^^^ with annagain

a sweet pony who did look very established for one broken for just 5 days. Rider didn't look too bad

 

[joycec]

My guess? Pony was bought as one of a job lot of 'unbroken' ponies from Ireland and has already done a season hunting.

 

[Vickijay]

Looks happy enough to me - going sweetly and popping everything happily. Some horses are "born broke".

I'm with you.

I wouldn't do it, because I like the horses I start too much, but I've started a few that could of trotted over some little jumps like that. Too risky to have a problem or an injury which you would end up kicking yourself about because in all honesty, there's no point in taking a day 5 horse cross country.

I'm going to take my day 6 starter horse for a little hack this afternoon though

 

[Slightlyconfused]

My guess? Pony was bought as one of a job lot of 'unbroken' ponies from Ireland and has already done a season hunting.

^^^^this

 

[_GG_]

I don't believe that pony has only been broken 5 days. Apart from anything, his steering is way too good, that canter, whilst far from perfect is too balanced for a real baby and there's not one second look or babyish jump in there. He knows what he's doing. If they're dealers, I imagine they're trying to make out he's doing that after just 5 days to suggest he's very easy to train and bump his price up (not that a horse doing XC after 5 days would be attractive to me)

I have to agree with this and Auslander. The pony is keen and looks happy to be doing the work. There is a chance it has done a lot of good quality groundwork and I have known just broken horses jump this sweetly (only smaller and not as much) but it can sometimes be good to get them out and doing things so long as it is not often and not too much. I don't think the rider looks too heavy at all and I think it was fairly sympathetic riding into the fences. It appeared mostly that she was just allowing the horse to go in at a pace/gait in which it was comfortable, no yanking or nasty kicking/forcing to be seen.

I would hope that the horse was late 4 or 5 years old, but to be honest, doing this occasionally can be a massive benefit to a young horse. Many horses become difficult because their training is taken too slowly. So of you have a willing horse, I see no problem with allowing them to go and experience a bit more, so long as they are not overfaced and it is kept to a minimum.

What a lovely little horse is what stood out to me most and...it is worth saying that the video by the same people that played directly after this showed a horse in the school being worked very nicely indeed, soft, elastic contact, nice steady hands etc. so I wouldn't want to discredit these people off the bat.

 

[RunToEarth]

That's a heck of a lot of jumping for a green broke horse! And no leg protection either

Not all horses need to have leg protection to step foot out of their stables.

 

[Walrus]

My guess? Pony was bought as one of a job lot of 'unbroken' ponies from Ireland and has already done a season hunting.

That would make more sense...

 

[stormox]

Does it matter whether it has boots on or not? plenty of horses go hunting each week, over much bigger fences, with no boots. I think its going really well, and looks happy. And the rider is really well balanced and good with her hands - I would say the pony was well able to carry her round a xc course with no damage to itself.

 

[MileAMinute]

Wrong post.

 

[Goldenstar]

I never put leg protection on mine for jumping teeny fences and certainly never when they are starting jumping they need to learn banging their legs is a bad idea .
I suspect it is one of those read the book in womb ponies .
He'll make someone a really nice pony .
However it's way more work than I would do at that stage .
I hope he's not three .

 

[numptynoelle]

I'd eat my hat if it had only been sat on for 5 days - doesn't look like it's has any baby-wobbliness at all. Lovely wee thing, and I think rather sympathetically ridden - no flapping, kicking etc. Probably not what I'd do with a baby, but it's not my horse!

To be perfectly honest, I've seen far worse videos on here from blissfully ignorant owners! :rolleyes3:

 

[stormox]

I expect it was following the other horse to help it keep straight and give it confidence to jump. No bad thing in my opinion.

 

[JFTDWS]

To be perfectly honest, I've seen far worse videos on here from blissfully ignorant owners! :rolleyes3:

There is that!

 

[Tiddlypom]

Lovely little horse, sympathetically ridden.

However, what if someone posted the following question on HHO.

'My horse has not been ridden for three years, through no fault of his own. He's a very easy, genuine type. I've just started to ride him again this week, and I've been offered a chance to take him cross country schooling at the weekend. Do you think I should take him?'

We'd all reply 'No, he won't be fit enough!'. So what's the difference here? Born broke or not, that was a lot of jumping for a baby.

 

[PapaFrita]

I don't believe that pony has only been broken 5 days. Apart from anything, his steering is way too good, that canter, whilst far from perfect is too balanced for a real baby and there's not one second look or babyish jump in there. He knows what he's doing. If they're dealers, I imagine they're trying to make out he's doing that after just 5 days to suggest he's very easy to train and bump his price up (not that a horse doing XC after 5 days would be attractive to me)

I agree.

 

[saddlesore]

I don't think for a second he's just backed either.

Eta- nice horse though!