Fish -another raw & cooking question from a nervous knife weilder!

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SaharaS

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Hi...a few silly questions for someone currently donning 12 boxes of industrial marigolds in order to simply walk past the freezer containing raw fish....:eek:

basically I'm getting my dog used to raw gradually. He was initially unable to tollerate it but after a period of organic, fresh natural home cooked & no shop bought feed, he seems to be able to cope far better. His breakfast & lunch are his raw meals, cooked for his eve meal. I'm saying this so you know he has had a sensitive tum, so I'm not looking for 'oh its just a dog he'll love it just give it to him' answers please..:o

I have been given a HUGE box of raw fresh sprats & sardines. I froze them immediately-as i understand you shouldn't give it till it has been freezing for a minimum of 24hours in order to kill any bacteria.

Can someone please tell me if i have to decapitate it & gut it..or is it safe to feed raw complete with eyes & guts?I'm rather keen to reclaim the two shelves in my freezer, so might cook some of it up..in which case, same question, I would grill or bake in foil..so would I need to behead & gut for cooking?

And last silly question..:rolleyes:(till I think of another!) Can you cook whole un-beheaded fish complete with eyes & guts from frozen or must I defrost?

You can now all have a good laugh at me for being a complete chicken because the contents of the freezer is staring at me & following me round the room..:eek::eek::eek: *please insert the music they use in films when someone is about to get stabbed in a shower*

Thankies :D
 
Lucky dog! Weirdly enough sprats always make my dog vomit, but she loves sardines - raw, semi-frozen or defrosted she doesn't mind and complete with head and guts!
I personally wouldn't feed cooked sardines or sprats to my dog only because of the whole raw bone = soft and pliable, cooked bone=brittle and spikey. If you desperately wanted to cook them, I would gut them as if you don't they'll be bitter.
Good luck reclaiming your freezer! My OH is making me dive to the icy depths at the bottom of my freezer to feed the dogs food thats months old to make space!
 
Thank you Moppett..I will try with the sardines first then..and get an unsuspecting visitor to sort the sprats out so i can cook them (just incase!) Hmm..my dog is offering his services as freezer hoover..we can do the deed for you on next visit to Mums! Mobile Bones Ltd.. ( ltd =
lamb, turkey, Duck!):D
 
If you are supposed to freeze fish before you feed it to kill bugs then my Lurcher should be dead!
My mate came round with surplus large (9lbs and above) trout he'd caught for us.
I gutted and took the heads off them, dropped one of the heads, as it was so large and slippery, on the floor in the kitchen. My thieving little beast of a Lurcher (they are professionally born thieves, ask any Lurcher owner) whipped it before I could bend down to pick it up and was off like a shot out of the dogflap into the garden.
She came in about 10 minutes later stinking of raw fish and licking her lips.
I assumed she had eaten it, NOT!
About 8-9 days later I noticed an unusual amount of bluebottles buzzing round the back of our pond.
We had a friend round that day and was entertaining them outside in the sunshine, whilst we were standing looking at the pond, the Lurcher, Daisy, dug up something round the back of it, it was the stinking, maggot ridden half rotted, fish head!
She promptly then ate it infront of us, we retired to the house!
Oz :)
 
hehe..Oz..are you SURE you don't live in Caterham on Sea? Ponds with ex fish and dustbins with giant lobster invaders??? whenever Hugh Fearlessly Eats It All's Fish Fight is on tv...I end up sniggering expecting an appearance trotting past the camera with some sort of jumbo marine life, approx 4 times larger than the current world record holding catch of the century & a little sign with "Hello HHO! :D"
 
Every dog is different; some will cope with/relish heads and guts, others will ignore and yet others will consume reluctantly and then represent their dinners....normally somewhere where you'ld rather they hadn't! In other words, you need to experiment to find what suits your dog.

I have one pointer that catches his own salmon when they're leaping when we're in Scotland and another that can barely bring himself to eat tinned sardines!

Also, re the freezing.......yes, freezing will kill all sorts of nasties.....however, domestic freezers don't go anywhere near cold enough to serve this purpose. You need an industrial freezer and to freeze for at least a month, if my memory serves me correctly, but you can google the requirements for each of the nasties if you so wish.
 
SaharaS said:
Hi...a few silly questions for someone currently donning 12 boxes of industrial marigolds in order to simply walk past the freezer containing raw fish....:eek:

basically I'm getting my dog used to raw gradually. He was initially unable to tollerate it but after a period of organic, fresh natural home cooked & no shop bought feed, he seems to be able to cope far better. His breakfast & lunch are his raw meals, cooked for his eve meal. I'm saying this so you know he has had a sensitive tum, so I'm not looking for 'oh its just a dog he'll love it just give it to him' answers please..:o

I have been given a HUGE box of raw fresh sprats & sardines. I froze them immediately-as i understand you shouldn't give it till it has been freezing for a minimum of 24hours in order to kill any bacteria.

Can someone please tell me if i have to decapitate it & gut it..or is it safe to feed raw complete with eyes & guts?I'm rather keen to reclaim the two shelves in my freezer, so might cook some of it up..in which case, same question, I would grill or bake in foil..so would I need to behead & gut for cooking?

And last silly question..:rolleyes:(till I think of another!) Can you cook whole un-beheaded fish complete with eyes & guts from frozen or must I defrost?

You can now all have a good laugh at me for being a complete chicken because the contents of the freezer is staring at me & following me round the room..:eek::eek::eek: *please insert the music they use in films when someone is about to get stabbed in a shower*

Thankies :D
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Feed it au naturel, the lot, guts and all. Your dog will be absolutely fine and will love you for this delicious treat!!
 
Nikki J said:
Feed it au naturel, the lot, guts and all. Your dog will be absolutely fine and will love you for this delicious treat!!
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..thank you! I think he'd even have eaten the freezer drawer this eve, given half the chance!:)

gunnergundog said:
Every dog is different; some will cope with/relish heads and guts, others will ignore and yet others will consume reluctantly and then represent their dinners....normally somewhere where you'ld rather they hadn't! In other words, you need to experiment to find what suits your dog.

I have one pointer that catches his own salmon when they're leaping when we're in Scotland and another that can barely bring himself to eat tinned sardines!

Also, re the freezing.......yes, freezing will kill all sorts of nasties.....however, domestic freezers don't go anywhere near cold enough to serve this purpose. You need an industrial freezer and to freeze for at least a month, if my memory serves me correctly, but you can google the requirements for each of the nasties if you so wish.
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Thank you very much for all this...very lucky dog to have his own super fresh Scottish salmon, I bet he loves that!We have caught some boulders in the river, but not the trout! So far..he's been far too clever to get caught!:D
 
Chuck dead fish at said dog and see what happens. Mine is gross- take said fish into garden- bite it a bit so the entrails are hanging out- bring it back inside- onto carpet!!- wait for me to shout take that outside you horrible creature- take it back out side NOM NOM NOM - dont whatever you do feed it cooked with bones in!

They are all different- mine LOVES rabbit but wont eat it with fur on- looks at me like i have lost the plot!
 
Thank you Lexie..I don't envy your carpet experiences! One freezer drawer approached with bbq tongs..(survived this bit..)left a little of the offending item staring at me in the fridge..with a portion later launched from drawer, volleyball style in direction of dog..dog now negotiating scary thing which seems to have lost its staring ability... I seem to have accidentally locked the french windows so lunch alfresco for him..seems to be chewing it very carefully and no mess/evidence of the gruesome massacre..I'm hoping it stays that way!:D
 
misterjay said:
If you feed fish semi frozen, there's less yuck :D
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thank you...I'm VERY grateful for this...although..... (see below.....:D)
lexiedhb said:
Maybe he knows mum would not approve of fish entrails dangling from his mouth!!!
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ok...so a little update.. someone has obviously been following this thread from his iPawd..I tried again today, with some of the sprats..jumbo ones!well finger sized..(actual real life fish fingers!) Anyway..he gently chose one from the bowl and has been carrying it lovingly around for the last hour. He has dropped it in his water bowl for a drink..taken it to his bed ..washed it very gently..gave it a nudge & then wandered off to sit hopefully by his bowl in the kitchen...he's now back in with his fish...gnawing a tree of broccoli!!!:D Meanwhile..I went off to poo pick the lawn & found yesterdays fish under his apple tree in the garden..in two halves..so he hadn't decapitated it after all!:rolleyes:
 
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