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I recently got a new horse who needed feeding up so i have changed her diet to mollichaf, alfa a and baileys 4. Her coat is starting to look great and she is slowly putting weight on but she is becoming fizzy, should i add a cool mix or is there somthing that is making her fizzy in her food? <font color="red"> </font>
 
Hi, what breed is she? I have sometimes found that Baileys sends some of mine a bit loopy in the past! I really like unmolased sugarbeet, alfa-a, a balancer such as top spec and something like weight gain or conditioning cubes
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Your diet does sound a little complicated? Why are you feeding molichaff and alfa a?

My recomendation would be Alfa A Oil, Build up cubes (or stay on the baileys conditioning cubes) Alfa Beet and ad lib haylage. I used this recently on a tempermental horse and he stayed sane.

The molichaff and if your feeding the original alfa a (rather than the alfa oil) could be making her fizzy due to the molasses. Certainly does to mine. Adding a cool mix could not calm her down. Not really how it works.
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Could also just be as she is feeling better now she is putting weight on, she is gettiong a handful. Also the spring grass is coming through!
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Try stopping the alfalfa, it drove my Appy bonkers, she has both TB and arab in her breeding and I have read that arabs should not touch it. It is a phytoestrogen, so if your mare is marish it will make matters worse. I stopped it and my mare improved immediately, I am having to give her a handful each day at the moment as it is the only thing she will eat bute in and she is lame from a kick in the field.
 
Alfa Beet is like sugar beet but has alfalfa in it. Therefore more conditioning. Look on the Dengie website. I am currently feeding that and Alfa Oil to a competition horse that needs condition and windsucks as concentrates make him worse. It's worked really well. My friend has also recently added it do her connemara's feed (who is also a bit poor) and she has really picked up as well.

I wouldn't worry about stopping the molichaff.... If you are feeding alfa oil or the equivalent, you really don't need to feed it.

I feed Alfalfa to all my horses and have never had a problem with it. my friend has arabs and they don't have a problem either.

How large are the feeds you are feeding? Horses don't have very large stomachs, so little and often is often better, especially if you're trying to put on weight.
 
I'm g;ad to hear that your horses are ok on alfalfa, but as the original poster is having problems, it worth looking at, don't you think.
 
That is why I suggested Alfa Oil rather than alfa original. I find molasses can be a problem. As I pointed out in my post there could be several things causeing the fiziness, which is why I suggested eliminating them one by one.
 
When we had a horse who was intolerant of grain and sugar, we found that the only way of determining the problem was to elimaate all feed except hay/grass. She had no problem with alfalfa, but could not cope with molassess or grain. She in fact tolerated alfalfa very well. The current mare CANNOT tolerate it at all. It seems a little foolish to my mind to endorse one feed as not having caused a problem for your horse or your friends horses, this is often the case, but should not be taken to mean that it causes no problems for others.
The recognised method for elimination diets in most species is to eliminate all but basic feeds and re-introduce others very gradually, one at a time
 
I didn't say that no horse would react badly to it. Obviously yours did, and I have heard of others on this forum and I do not doubt them. I was only suggesting to eliminate molasses first as it is in several of the OP's feeds. See if it works over a period of weeks, and then try elimintating something else. I have had horses in that are incredibly fizzy, and molasses has always been the first thing I've cut, and I have found this often helps.

I do not have a problem recomending this feed to anyone as I have tried it on lots of different types of horses, that I have owned personally, my clients horses, or horses that we have had in on holiday, schooling livery. I can honestly say I haven't had a problem with this feed. But that is my opinion and I am happy to hear differences on opinion.

I agree if you have a feed intolerance you should cut the feed down to just grass and build it back up. However in this case I could see this being difficult for the OP as her horse need weight gain and this would be compromised if she did this. Hence again why I suggested playing around with what she was feeding. If in a few weeks the horse has not calmed down, she could try eliminating something else.

Anyway, I was only trying to help, and I hope the OP saw my advice that way.
 
As was I. Another side effect of eliminating feeds which have an adverse effect is that often this actually encourages weight gain as the digestive system is no longer compromised (similar action to that of cealiac disease in humans) .
 
Yes that would be fine. That's what I tend to start with and then I've addded alfa beet later if needed.
 
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