Flash or drop?

[joop]

Whats the difference between a flash noseband and a drop noseband?

What would you use on a 5 yr old id x tb - broken this year. French link snaffle working very nicely on flat and doesnt open her mouth then as long as you really work her from behind. Jumping though she opens her mouth to pull the reins out of your hands and run on her forehand. She is built heavy in front so obviously finds it hard but she is capable when just working on the flat. Any ideas?

I know what the difference in apperance is but what is the difference in action?

Thank you in advance. x

 

[steffielu]

http://www.sustainabledressage.com/tack/bridle.php
Have a look at this, scroll down to the section on nosebands... Pursuaded me to ditch the flash and opt for a drop, works very well for my horse.

 

[ruth83]

Flash nosebands were introduced as a modern version of the drop so a standing martingale could still be used with the noseband. I prefer a drop if it is absolutely necessary but do get someone to help you fit it properly. Flash nosebands tend to be too tightly adjusted and so many horses fix and fight against them. Drops if correctly fitted are comfortable until the horse goes incorrectly. The flash supposedly works in this way too but horses seem to object much less to a drop.

 

[elaineh]

I'd retrain, and solve the issue, not just mask the sympton.


"Jumping though she opens her mouth to pull the reins out of your hands and run on her forehand. She is built heavy in front so obviously finds it hard but she is capable when just working on the flat. Any ideas? "

So you need to work on gettgin horse off forehand. These are all good:

1. Forequarter yields
2. Backing up.
3. Sidepassing.

There's a few 'how to's' here:

My horse leans / is heavy in the hand...

http://irishnhsociety.proboards41.com/in...read=1193912631

On the bit / getting head in, etc.

http://irishnhsociety.proboards41.com/in...read=1189155540

Buying bridles and nosebands

and bits

http://irishnhsociety.proboards41.com/in...read=1193913643

Improving brakes

http://irishnhsociety.proboards41.com/in...read=1191926143

Forequarter yield

http://irishnhsociety.proboards41.com/in...read=1191916506

http://irishnhsociety.proboards41.com/in...read=1191916567




Good luck, and avoid the noseband, it wont solve forehand issue, but the training above will

 

[joop]

Thanks for your advice - I will try a drop. x

 

[Donkeymad]

More training really is the long-term answer, but if you need one, I'd always recommend the drop.

 

[Ottinmeg]

both my daughters horses have drops. very soon after fitting the ponys she was put back in a snaffle after being ridden on the 2nd hole of a dutch gag for months and months

 

[lucylemon]

one of my loan horses is used in a drop if he gets strong, it seems to work

other loan hors eused to be in a flash, but too no notice and is now in a grackle

 

[Bozzy]

Just switched my boy to a drop from a cavesson (though sometimes flash) and he's much improved