Oberon
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OOh - that looks interesting.
How to they equate the stirrup bar pressure?
OP- have you looked into treeless saddles? One of the makes that have been around for ages and have good rep?
Personally i have only seen a bit of what she wrote on here, but even if she were nice i just don't like the look or the concept of her saddles, for me its either with a proper tree or without one at all, a soft tree, really? so like a half baked cake, neither a cake nor cake mix, tastes diguisting and you can't do much with it. and believe me i am far from being a traditionalist, i have one of these on order
http://www.totalcontact.eu/en/saddle.php
They are made in India - but that is only because she was approached by an Indian bloke who wanted to go into business with her. She looked into the working conditions and quality of work over very carefully before she struck a deal - at least that is her version of events.
Are they ?!?!?!
What happened to Nurseys (sheepskin coat manufacturer) who used to make them. Another broken business relationship in Heather's history?
is to buy a WOW which you should never need to part-ex because it is so ajustable. You can even buy a pump and do it yourself if you have the saddle fitting expertise.
This was another option that I was wondering about. Is it better to get one of these from the off? I went through so many saddles with my mare when she came into work, I'd probably have spent less if I'd just got a WOW and had it fitted regularly.
But are you going to don a bikini to ride in it as per the photos in your link?
OOh - that looks interesting.
How to they equate the stirrup bar pressure?
How will the stirrup pressure be dispersed? Looks like a roller with stirrups?
After her display of her true colours in Sospbox, I won't ever buy her stuff again.
Wouldnt touch any of her stuff after her display on here!
After her display of her true colours in Sospbox, I won't ever buy her stuff again.
Try the Thorowgood or Wintec (or Kent and Masters if you want leather) for youngsters-I am-expecting to spend £400. X
They have saved me an absolute fortune over the 7 years I've had them because I always buy babies or undeveloped horses. I love them. Lots of people hate them. My horses adore them and the freedom that they get through the shoulders because of the carbon fibre jointed tree, which allows the front arch to swing.
There are always a number for sale on eBay which you can get a fitter to fit for you, but you would need to have an idea of what panel you need.
Make sure you find a recommended fitter if you do go down the WOW route. Everything I've heard suggests that the saddle is as good as the fitter, and a bad fitter can really, really mess things up. This is what happened with mine - it ended up being the worst saddle experience of my entire life, and I wasted a LOT of money in the process. Bear in mind that I was 17 when I got mine and had saved up for years to be able to afford a decent saddle. It was just one disaster after another.Thanks for the feedback. I will look into WOWs more seriously.
I'm disappointed with the attitude of some of the posters on this thread, but I suppose it's none of my business if you choose to cut off your nose to spite your face.
I'm disappointed with the attitude of some of the posters on this thread, but I suppose it's none of my business if you choose to cut off your nose to spite your face.
So you're buying a saddle you haven't tried and don't know will suit your horse, for which there is no pressure data and that hasn't yet gone beyond the prototype. And this despite the experiences of people on this thread and others, where previous hm saddles have damaged their horses backs. Do you even know how this flexible tree will distribute weight? If you press down on something flexible there is no pressure distribution just cushioning. Now why would i want to join you? I have a torsion that is about ten years old and has never caused a day's trouble. I can jump in it and ride for twenty miles in it without fear of damage to my horse. I Also have treed saddles that fit when i want to use them.Last I heard the Flexee won't be in general production for a couple more months, but I have heard no bad reports from anyone who has had a protopype. I have 2 on order, so will update when I have had a chance to try them.
I'm disappointed with the attitude of some of the posters on this thread, but I suppose it's none of my business if you choose to cut off your nose to spite your face.
In all fairness, and not trying to start an argument about the pros or cons of HM saddles, this could be said about every saddle, ever. We all know that certain saddles just don't suit certain horses. My own mare got muscle wastage from a WOW saddle but I don't go around rubbishing them to other people because that was our specific experience. A lot of other people love them. It is exactly the same with HM's saddles.And this despite the experiences of people on this thread and others, where previous hm saddles have damaged their horses backs.
Parker79, I wasn't implying that you had a problem with HM, but it's interesting that so many people have come on here condemning the Flexee when evidently they haven't had the opportunity to try it, and that's what you were particularly asking about.
I'm possibly lucky in that I've had no bad experiences with HM products, so am confident that they will live up to expectations. Like any other product, if there is any likelyhood of them being less than comfortable for my horses, they will be returned with feedback.
If you haven't already, check them out on http://www.enlightenedequitation.com/flexee_intro.htm
My response had nothing to do with the product and everything to do with the producer. IMHO, someone who can proactively be as petulant and petty as she was on this forum isn't someone I particularly want to give my money to . . . no matter how good (or not) her products are. She isn't the only saddler and therefore doesn't corner the market. Horses for courses, as they say.
I also seconded what Cedars said about Thorowgood and/or Kent & Masters - I have a K&M saddle, it fits my horse nicely, looks smart, is comfy and is easy for my saddler to change the gullet as and when Kal changes shape.
I have had no experience with HM's products at all (unless you count a couple of her books), but I have had a negative experience with HM herself. Put me right off.
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There are plenty of other saddles out there, with a proven track record. I fail to see how it is some sort of magical product that doesn't have an equal or better already in place.
I'm disappointed that someone I admired continues to make defamatory comments about the users of this forum - as recently as a couple of hours ago.
There is no love lost between me and Heather Rhino, but there really is no other treeless saddle on the market with the level of padding inbuilt that hers have, the ability to shim in velcro pockets as required coupled with a conventional enough look to ride BD in them. All the others seen to be unconventional in looks and/or require external pads to be used for protection.
I thought you were all about function over form?
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