Fluffy Bunnies Or Is It Because We Can Try And Do Better?

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So thanks to Gingerwitch she got me thinking about the difference between CR and NL. I'll admit I don't visit CR that much because I'm not competing right now. I also think I'm a crap CR rider and have zero aspirations beyond my stations. I may come across as a fluffy bunny but maybe I will give you some background. I'm also drinking so you know all deep and meaningful crap I will regret tomorrow.

When I was 18 I graduated, packed the car, and did the school of hard knocks. I went into racing because I wasn't rich enough to be an American Hunter Princess. I left the East Coast after being a groom and a hotwalker on my summer holidays. I went to California so I could learn to gallop. I was on the farm of trainer D.Wayne Lukas. At the time the leading trainer in the country. This was the place the babies were broke and we had layups. We had 120 yearlings per year. I was small I wanted to be a jockey. I was taught to gallop. In the late 80's if you were a woman and you wanted to race ride well you better be able to use your stick better than any man. Fortunately I wad also taught how to break horses by the man in charge. He was a cowboy and a very good one. I learned from the best. These million dollar babies had high hopes but he really did try and do best by all 120 babies yearly. And he taught me how to gallop. I was pretty useless starting out. But he kept me on horses to build my confidence. When I got cocky, he upped the ante. More difficult horses but yet not to break my confidence but to learn. Very similar to horses. I spent 3 years there before going to the track to be a jockey. I was useless.

Being a jockey was not about thinking it was about reacting. My mind doesn't work that way. So if I wanted to eat I decided galloping was a much better decision. But to get back to the stick, I could hit one. I was really good. At the time that was admirable. I will get back to that in a bit.

Let me say that most racehorses are easy. They really are. You have a few quirky ones and they always make you better riders. You also have those that you will never get along with. This taught me you can never be all things to all horses. Some people will in fact do a better job as long as your ego can get past that. Something you only learn later on. I've had my clock cleaned thinking I was so darn good. Humility is learned the hard way. I'm really proud of the horses that my trainer at the time would say, you think of some way to get him better. They weren't superstars, but I felt like I made a difference. This was the same for other riders at my barn too. Not just me. In my later years I wasn't worried about what they won, it was if I made a difference.

Here's the thing, the really top notch racehorses. The best thing you can do is not mess them up. They have the talent, you take care of it. I see a lot of the younger riders who think it's all them. Nope, enjoy it because they have the talent and make you look good. Galloping in America is different. You need a clock in your head. If a trainer tells you 5/8 in 1:00 you do that. Not 1:00.2. I was good at that. Lucky I guess. But yeah, back to the whip. When I was trying to prove myself I got on a lot of "bad actors". At one point I thought I can't do this anymore. I'm being told to give this horse a pasting and I just can't do this. I love horses, WTF am I doing. If it's not sorted in one well meaning crack, forget it. That served me well and made me such a better rider.

So I move to Ireland and I get a break from 365 days a year up at 4 am. My husband and I start breaking horses. I've always wanted to start horses capable of doing anything. Don't care if it's a happy hacker or racehorse. Confidence means a horse will do anything for you. And to let them be horses as well. So yeah, I may be a fluffy bunny with that but I've seen too much of the other. I bred both racehorses and competition horses. They have done me proud. I've sold on and the owners are happy. I saw some cruel things over the years and I really just wanted to make a difference. Now I have to take the step up and compete my own. I hate this because I don't want to let my horses down. I'm very hard on myself and feel rather useless. My confidence is in giving babies a good start in life. That makes me happy. And yes I'm passionate about that because that's where I feel I'm good. Nothing else just that.

I did work for a good jumper rider but I only schooled. They were very happy with me even offering me a position that would have meant giving up galloping, but it also meant in the ring time. My fear if failure meant I stuck with being an exercise rider.

So yeah maybe I am a fluffy bunny, but to me the horses are the most important things. Happy and confident. I never carry a stick nor wear spurs. I have enough ways to communicate. Trust me I know how to use them. All the times my mare competed she never had a stick or spurs. It's a crutch I don't need. Trust me, I can use them. Won't give up my neckstrap though!

So there. Maybe now you might know why I'm a fluffy bunny.

Terri
 
Very interesting post EI, I really enjoyed reading it. :)

You made me think of this post in CR -

As for the responses in NL (I only read a few - I got bored!) the beardy weirdy knit your own sandals brigade are probably gazing into their crystals and spouting chakras for him, so you're covered on that front too....

;)

I regard to your title question (Fluffy Bunnies Or Is It Because We Can Try And Do Better?), I try to do better. There's certainly a few things that I did in my youth that I am ashamed of and would never do now. I guess I need some crystals and sandals (I do hope that none of the horses stand on my feet ;) ).
 
TBH, I looked at CR recently, presumably prompted by the same thread as you. . Now I know that it is none of my business where people post but having read on the same thread that there would be different 'more professional' views I was amazed at some of the posters who consider themselves and are considered to be Competition Riders.
There are some true professionals who post in NL whose opinions I value highly.
EI, I usually think that you speak lots of sense (whether you've been drinking or not;):D).
 
EI - you a Fluffy Bunny? Is loving your horses being a FB? I dont really think so. However, I do post in CR and I dont compete - my daughter events and there are some very experienced eventer on there, so get loads of good advice. I think that sometimes us 'horse people' can be a tad judgemental and can get very passionate about our favourite subject - horses. That doesnt mean we are FBs. It also doesnt mean we are wrong either.

ALso, please never, ever post when drinking - its fatal - its like sending text messages to exs when you are drunk - yep we have all done it and its just so WRONG!!!!!!! However, I do like your story telling, and please feel free to tell some more. By the way, I also old fashioned as hell with my horses - I only use snaffles or pelhams, dont like gadgets, and dont use spurs either. Also neckstraps are a must - we call them FM straps on our yard (work it out).
 
Have you been drinking EI? Join my club!!

Great story. I think you have to follow your heart with horses. Yes we all need a teacher but ultimately the horse is the teacher and as long as you trust your instinct you'll rub along just fine.

Having been to some very strict establishments and now gone "feral" I am glad to say that my doubts were founded.
 
Not quite the same as the Oh **** straps that go from D to D on the front of the saddle. ;)

Very similar to those and we call them that as well. I use a hunting breastplate as my FM strap, its brilliant and looks good. Mini TX uses her Point Two strap on her jumping saddle as a Oh **** strap as well.
 
I've been riding my pony-arab barefoot and bareback for the last few weeks, all I need is a bitless bridle made of rope and some sandals and I'll fully qualify as a NL hippy. :D

I like it better in here, people in NL tend to take themselves less seriously.

Interesting post OP, just shows that equine experience isn't measured very well by competition. You sound like a good horseperson. :)
 
I rarely post in cr, as I don't do what I'd call competing anymore. I don't keep up with current rules so no use on them, or venue questions. Miss competing too much to want to read loads of reports. Only comment on general stuff in cr, so not that often. Far more fun in here.
And agree with pearlsasinger too.
 
This is my homebred mare competing as a 5 yo early on. She's only doing a meter here and showing with someone else on board. She is my baby!

http://s1204.beta.photobucket.com/u...t=3&o=29&_suid=135240261484606505322681751122

I don't really know if I'm a good horseman. I try but I'm not sure. My husband is much better. And by the time he's done all the groundwork on the babies, my getting on is a non event. I have a lot of help in looking like I know what I'm doing!

Terri
 
I think it's more fun in here it appeals to my funky sense of humor more , I dont really feel that at home in CR as since my accident I don't really complete any more as I seem to have lost my competion mojo ( if any one finds it lying around could they send it back because I could do with it) .
And I think as so much of my younger life revolved about the next goal for the horse it nice to read threads about other stuff.
 
fluffy bunny or not, you could write a book and I would buy it! :) Can we have some more memories please???

Yes definitely - very interesting :)

Terri - I'll try not to sound like creepy sycophant :eek: but I've always found your advice really sensible, practical but with true heart and love for horses. What you say reminds me of Mark Rashid's philosophy which I try to aspire to but fall way short because I lack the ability to put a lot into practice.
 
Not related to the infamous Storm Cat by any chance?

She was by Storm Cat. Overbrook Farm who owned and stood Storm Cat, was one of Wayne's biggest clients. So I have been on more than my fair share I can tell you.

But I also used to visit Storm Cat at the farm. Now the stallion that commanded the biggest stud fee ever used to be out 24/7. No rugs. They only time he came in was during thunderstorms. The farm had it's own doppler radar system. So when going to visit SC you got to see him all scruffy and being a horse. You also had to bring peppermints. I have a pic of me with him and will try and upload in the morning. I was going through a really bad hair period at the time so I'm not looking too good!

Terri
 
Its a shame that this is turning into a knock CR thread. I find it very interesting on there. There are some really experienced and knowledgeable people there (some not so, as on all other pages on here)!! I like to waft between areas of HHO picking bits from everywhere. You just have to get to know people to decide who you "trust" and take advice from.
 
Sussex, I really couldn't be as good as I am without my husband. I mean at 5ft and 7 stone 11, I'm not very good at some things. And even though my husband is a brilliant horseman, you should be a fly on the wall during mucking out time or times we aren't working with the horses. Bicker, bicker, about who's right. It's tough working and living together! But for whatever reason we get it right when working with the horses.

Terri
 
I don't want it to be a knock on CR. It's assumed that all of us in NL are FB's. I'm just trying to show you that not everyone in either place is one or the other. I saw in one thread in which someone directly refered to those in NL as FB's hence forth this post.

Don't worry, I'm going to have to visit over there and bring shame onto the whole CR section when I have to report that I once again went off course!:D

Terri
 
Sussex, I really couldn't be as good as I am without my husband. I mean at 5ft and 7 stone 11, I'm not very good at some things. And even though my husband is a brilliant horseman, you should be a fly on the wall during mucking out time or times we aren't working with the horses. Bicker, bicker, about who's right. It's tough working and living together! But for whatever reason we get it right when working with the horses.

Terri

You mean you're human? - you've ruined the whole picture now :eek: :D
 
Goldenstar, I'm sorry to hear about your accident. That really sucks, but from your posts I get a very knowlegable darn good horseperson.

Terri

It's five years or so ago but even though I know Part of me would like to go out and about and compete again ( I know it won't be at the level I was at it) but I just can't seem to get my act together I know it's ok say I spend all my time training these horses because I enjoy it and I want them to be the best horses they can be I don't want to trek round in the lorry anymore but part of me does want to , at a level I am happy at but I sort of can't .
Anyway that's why I am here and on CR I feel at bit of a fraud over there.
 
You mean you're human? - you've ruined the whole picture now :eek: :D

Well it was rather funny this evening. We have a big barrell we keep filled with water and a dip bucket in that so the barrell doesn't get filled with crap from setting down the bucket. I'm really annoyed this seems like such a hard task for my husband. Upon going out this afternoon I see the dip bucket has a soapy sponge in it from which my husband washed his motorbikes. WTF, we have thousands of buckets beyond the dip bucket. I flipped. I mean come on. Then he tried to use the "well if you wouldn't nag...." What? Nag, how freaking hard is it to not use the dip bucket. OK so now the dip bucket is a bit of a joke. He's sitting besides me laughing.

Terri
 
I rarely post in cr, as I don't do what I'd call competing anymore. I don't keep up with current rules so no use on them, or venue questions. Miss competing too much to want to read loads of reports. Only comment on general stuff in cr, so not that often. Far more fun in here.
And agree with pearlsasinger too.
Well, of course you do!

But which bit?
 
It's five years or so ago but even though I know Part of me would like to go out and about and compete again ( I know it won't be at the level I was at it) but I just can't seem to get my act together I know it's ok say I spend all my time training these horses because I enjoy it and I want them to be the best horses they can be I don't want to trek round in the lorry anymore but part of me does want to , at a level I am happy at but I sort of can't .
Anyway that's why I am here and on CR I feel at bit of a fraud over there.

You're not a fraud when you've been there and done that. What you have in knowlegde is something all of us can benefit from. Now I know who I can come to when I need some advice.:)

Terri
 
Terri,

Thanks for sharing your story, I've always found your posts interesting and well balanced so lovely to find out more background info :)
 
CRs isn't supposed to be a club only open to riders who've had success at a certain level, or are currently there though, is it? Its supposed to be an area to discuss horse competitions whereas NL is for more general discussions. I get cross about the notion that people belong in one room or the other, it doesn't sit right with me at all.
 
You're not a fraud when you've been there and done that. What you have in knowlegde is something all of us can benefit from. Now I know who I can come to when I need some advice.:)

Terri

You are very kind, ignore me I am a bit down to night I took the 6yo to a training session and he did go well and had to answer the question what are you going to do with him to many times for comfort , the time is coming when I will have to make a plan and I was enjoying just bumbling along training him and making him a happy horse.
 
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