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It's a strain not usually found in animals and similar to the strain used in labs in the manufacture of vaccines & antigens

The government labs 3 miles from the farm are now the prime suspect for the source of the infection.
 
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OMG will it spread then?
 
I've just said the same thing in Rosiie's earlier post - apologies as you seem to have posted first!

I think that they are following the philosophy of 'If you can't dazzle them with diamonds, baffle them with bullsh:t' - the more I learn the more confused I get
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Somebody on the Donkey Breed Society site suggested this might be the case this morning,The last outbreak was suspicious in 2001 also.
 
So after f'ing up the control of the last outbreak, DEFRA may have actually started this one. Who needs islamic terrorists when we have our own civil service...
 
...the carcasses were transported across the south of England to Somerset to be incinerated. Now that has made me
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If we have been debating as to whether to go a few miles down the road for an equine event and the moral dilemma of that, and here they are transporting infected carcasses all that way.
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I believe they were in containment cages though? And they try not to use on farm pyres now as there was outbreaks downwind of the pyres in 2001.

They transported carcasss for incineration last time around too - Bella said earlier they went past her farm.
 
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I know I've been thinking that all day
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i just don't get why they had to transport them so far
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Why do they need to go that far? I've just watched the news and I thought that there was supposed to be an air exclusion zone over the farm so why did they show arial pictures of the cattle going to their slaughter?
 
Neither - it means there has been a monumental f*** up somewhere along the line if this really is the source.
 
I don't know, but to me it says at least it hasn't been transported there by the transfer of animals from another farm. Equals a good thing? Maybe wishful thinking!
 
Bloody hell the stupidity never ends, who the hell makes these decisions?

Containment cages, WTF does that mean? If people only saw the shite that drips from some of these lorries.......
 
It is sickening isn't it S_V.

It happened in 2001 too after the ministry were forced to admit that the clusters of cases down wind from the pyres couldn't possibly be coincidence. It also has to be said that when the outbreak started, I very much doubt anyone could have envisaged the scale of the cull and pyres and it was also rumoured that areas with many localised cases simply ran out of sleepers etc that were being used, along with straw/hay etc to get the pyres lit. The delay in shipping supplies to construct pyres meant that carcasses were inevitably lying around, decomposing in farm yards for up to a week in some cases. Carrion birds, foxes, feral cats and the like were also dining on these carcasses and likely spreading the disease further.

Incineration was therefore seen as cleaner, quicker and less costly to resources.

We had many, many wagons travelling past our farm along the M6 corridor to a rendering plant in Cheshire. It was scary, really scary. None of the local farms to us on both sides of the M6 were affected though. I'm lead to believe the risk of contamination from dead carcasses is minimal compared to the risk of airborne contamination from live animals.
 
Does any body know if it is likely to be less, more or the same in terms of how infectious it is likely to be? Has there been any pess speculation about how it got from one place to the other? If the animals are stores then presumably they haven't travelled much and haven't infected any where else.
 
Personally, as a farmer, to us it's not a big sigh of relief but is some comfort to have an idea of the source.

Once you have an idea, you can rationalise it all so much better in your own minds. Doesn't make the threat go away, but helps to explain how an Island such as ours could have been infected once again.

I have a feeling the Government and Defra will be hoping it means it's more likely to be contained locally. That's only going to be true if we could be so lucky that the farms within close proximity to the lab haven't been moving livestock on and off recently.
 
The problem is, especially with Beef, they're constantly being moved. You only ha to sit by ours last week and lorries and lorries of sheep were passing through, that wouldnt be so bad, but we have exra equestrian traffic recently (I think mainly for the chasers course which is 2 miles away), which just means more risks.

It only takes one infected herd, and one group of people walking or hacking by that land to spead it.
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