Foal ear torn off

I must admit I felt bad for the dog aswell, ok it was wrong but fancy putting a dog in the position of doing that. If the foal did roll on him then he was probably biting in shock / distress etc and too lose his life over another bl@@dy stupid owner upsets me.
frown.gif
 
How can people be so bloody stupid. I had a dog in my yard (guard dog) but when one of my mares foaled he kept jumping up at the stable door and trying to snatch at the mare of foal. People actually thought this was sweet & kept saying that he was just being friendly. Needless to say i couldn't keep an eye on him through the night when he roamed the yard so he had to go. I would never put my horses in that position 'accident waiting to happen' comes to mind.
 
I saw the threads about this foal, but no reason was given as to how it occured - although may have been given later.
I am quite shocked at the stupidity shown.
 
This looks like blooming ridiculous stuff, the dog was put down as soon as the vet arrived-and yt she said it was cowering in the corner-I'm guessing foalie either rolled/wanted to play with dog as they say it was out fo character. Poor dog
frown.gif

Idiot owners tbh.
 
Blooming dogs!!!!

When are people going to realize that dogs and horses do NOT mix! Please don't shoot me down as the vet herself recommends keeping them apart.

I have now lost track of how many horses/ponies have been killed/injured over the past year by "mans best friend". They were quite right to have the dog put down before it does any more damage. I know if I ever see one in my boy's field, it'll be the last thing it ever does.

That poor little foal must have been in agony.
 
The breeder of my late Norwegian Buhund have had Trotters and dogs for probably between 30, 40 years without problems. From Wikipedia : The Dalmatian's most important task has been his role as a coach or carriage dog, so called because they were formerly used to run in attendance of a coach.
If the Dalmatians only had been running after the coaches with the intention of harming the horses, would people have put up with that back then when much more was based on if it fulfilled it's function or not?


It is rarely the dogs fault, it's the humans that breed dogs with wrong temperament, the humans buying dogs they can't control or can't provide with enough exercise...



Over2You said
[ QUOTE ]
When are people going to realize that dogs and horses do NOT mix! Please don't shoot me down as the vet herself recommends keeping them apart.

[/ QUOTE ]

Vet S Ross said according to H&H
[ QUOTE ]
but I would advise people keep dogs and horses apart unless they are their pets and know how they will behave.

[/ QUOTE ]

Now nobody and almost nothing is 100% guaranteed, but as the owner of the foal seems to have said herself (and similar by f. ex. BumpyRide in earlier replies,) "I can only think that the foal rolled on it while he was sleeping and the dog went for him as it was totally out of character." Nobody knows what happened, but how would you Over2You feel if a horse/foal rolled over on you when you sleep tonight? You'll probably answer you wont be stupid enough to sleep so it could roll on you, but the dog hardly let itself in to the stable did it?


Feel sad for both foal and dog.
 
[ QUOTE ]
Dalmatian's most important task has been his role as a coach or carriage dog, so called because they were formerly used to run in attendance of a coach.
If the Dalmatians only had been running after the coaches with the intention of harming the horses, would people have put up with that back then when much more was based on if it fulfilled it's function or not?

[/ QUOTE ]

At least they would have been supervised and someone would have intervened if there was trouble. And perhaps they were utilizing the dogs' instincts to chase when using them. What about the countless loose dogs that roam the countryside terrorizing livestock and horses. Dog owners in my area (East Neuk of Fife) have been told by the police that their animals are at risk of being shot by farmers if they persist in letting their animals run at liberty. But they hardly ever take heed of the warnings.


[ QUOTE ]
It is rarely the dogs fault, it's the humans that breed dogs with wrong temperament, the humans buying dogs they can't control or can't provide with enough exercise...

[/ QUOTE ]

Even the most laid back of dogs can turn. A while ago, a friend lost a kitten when her Labrador savaged it. The dog had always been placid and easy going and was acting as a foster mother at the time of the incident. She had suckled several litters of kittens beforehand without problem. It wasn't my friend's fault, but something inside the dog snapped and a kitten lost its life as a result. The dog was sold and neither of us know what became of her.

[ QUOTE ]
Nobody knows what happened, but how would you Over2You feel if a horse/foal rolled over on you when you sleep tonight? You'll probably answer you wont be stupid enough to sleep so it could roll on you, but the dog hardly let itself in to the stable did it?

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree that it was extremely careless of the owners to allow the dog in the stable in the first place. However, it did show what the dog was capable of when provoked. It could have just checked the foal with a nip or growl, but it RIPPED the foal's ear almost completely off!! What would have happened if the dog had been sleeping in its owner's bed and he/she rolled onto the dog?

PS: Thanks for not jumping down my throat. Makes a pleasant change to voice my opinions without being the recipient of a nasty reply.
 
Goodness!
crazy.gif
I saw the thread in Vet but no explanation was given as to the circumstances surrounding the injury. Poor dog and poor foal - very silly thing to do leaving the dog stuck in a stable with a foal.
frown.gif
 
[ QUOTE ]

If the Dalmatians only had been running after the coaches with the intention of harming the horses, would people have put up with that back then when much more was based on if it fulfilled it's function or not?


[/ QUOTE ]

The fact of the matter is it wasn't a Dalmation it was a Staffordshire Bull Terrier and they were most definitely not bred to run along side coaches!

I personally wouldn't never allow any dog in a stable with my horse.

Dog = Fight
Horse = Flight

Fight in a lock stable with Flight is a recipe for disaster, the dog probably reacted through instinct alone in the same way any dog could have if it thought it's life was in danger. Dalmation, Staff, Colie or Lab they are all dogs at the core and will protect themselves if necessary.
 
surely the stupid owner of this foal should be prosecuted?

she is obviously not capable of caring adequately for her animals to ALLOW a dog to sleep in a stable with a foal.

if this had happened in a field, HHO'ers would be baying for foel owners blood for not keeping the dog under control.

double standards again.
 
I feel sorry for the poor dog mostly, poor foal secondly and I have absolutely no sympathy for the stupid person whose fault this is. They should be utterly ashamed of themselves.
 
I will probably get shot down for this but...

In the article it said that the dog 'would often go into the stable and sleep with the foal.' I got the impression that the dog wasn't locked or put in with the foal but it got in there by it's self. It is possible that the Staffie could have jumped into the stable with the foal.

(I have seen a small dog (not mine) on a number of occasions jump over a 4ft stable door, luckily she doesn't do it when there are any horses in the stable.)

Yes I feel VERY sorry for the foal and for the dog
frown.gif
frown.gif
, but I really don't think we are in any position to shoot the owner down when we haven't heard the full story.

(*runs back to the safety of NL before rotten tomatoes are thrown!*)
tongue.gif
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top