foals by Milky Way

I had hoped to have a lovely foal by Milky Way by now but it seems I was taken for a ride by the stud. They had my cremello mare at their stud for four months and she did get pregnant on the first cycle but seemed to reabsorb, they supposedly covered her on a further three cycles but she never caught. Now I have been reliably informed that my mare was injected to lose that first pregnancy and they never covered the mare again but still kept my mare there and ran up emormous keep fees and the vet bills. As it turns out Milky Way was never supposed to be covering dilute mares anyway - no wonder the stud owner said to me that we would say the mare was a chestnut! As soon as I got my mare home, she got in foal to my stallion straight away, without an issue. The stud refuses to return my keep fees or anything else and now even refuses to respond to my emails. So it was a very expensive mistake and I wont be doing business with that stud again.

Does anyone else have any simular experiences with dilutes mares, were you told it was ok to take your dilute mare to Milky Way?
 
But the stud (owners) site specifically states that cremello semen is not available for dilute mares, so out of interest why did you send her?

Unless I have misunderstood it all.
 
Not back in February when I took the mare, there was no mention on their website regarding not available to dilute mares. I asked the question on the phone and in an email, stressing all the time that my mare was a cremello and was this ok - the answer I got was yes fine. And when I turned up the stud grooms said 'I guess we will be seeing a lot of mares this colour here this year!'.
 
I remember Milky Way arriving in this country and looking at him on the stud's website too, I had a cremello mare at the time and there was nothing saying that I could not use him due to the color as i was thinking of sending her, but I sold the mare so it was never an issue. I did hear of a cremello foal born this year by him though so must be from a dilute mare? I know some of the studs will allow covering to a single dilute for a higher stud fee, perhaps this foal was a result of that?
 
Sorry, can I ask a stupid question...why would the stallion not be allowed to cover these dilute mares? Surely a good horse is never a bad colour?
 
I'd be having a rough guess here, but I'm thinking Gwendolyn and the stallion owners name being Gwen - Flyingcolours is possibly the owner?

He's at stud in Ireland? Leased when he didn't go to Centyfield I think I remember...
 
He was at Centyfield last season, yes now in ireland. And yes I am pretty sure the OP is his owner Gwen.

Crazymare - as cremello and perlinos are quite rare, and I suppose sort after by dilute breeders; if Milky Way was bred to another double dilute (eg cremello) then that foal would also be a double dilute and if a colt, it may end up standing at stud, thus being competition for Milky Way. The owner also doesn't allow her homozygous tobiano stallion to cover homozygous mares
 
Ahh I see, so more of a limiting the market scenario rather than a health issue. I wasn't sure if the cross would mean a deformed foal or something as I'm not up on colour genetics. Thanks for the enlightenment!
 
So has anyone got any of the little golden childeren?
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I'm looking forward to seeing some buckskins by him, I have a nice dark bay TB mare gone to stud to a cremello this year, I would have used Milky Way if he were still around here...
 
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He was at Centyfield last season, yes now in ireland. And yes I am pretty sure the OP is his owner Gwen.

Crazymare - as cremello and perlinos are quite rare, and I suppose sort after by dilute breeders; if Milky Way was bred to another double dilute (eg cremello) then that foal would also be a double dilute and if a colt, it may end up standing at stud, thus being competition for Milky Way. The owner also doesn't allow her homozygous tobiano stallion to cover homozygous mares

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Yes I am the breeder and owner of Milky Way.

My main business is breeding dilute Warmbloods. Therefore I do not allow my stallions to breed outside dilute mares, not single nor double dilute.

The homozygous tobiano stallion however is allowed to be used on non homozygous tobiano mares. However for now only solid colored mares have used him.
 
Why didn't he stand at Centyfield for long? Had seen him and had hoped to put a mare to him this spring. Next thing... he was gone over to Ireland. Never got a reason why though.
 
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Why didn't he stand at Centyfield for long? Had seen him and had hoped to put a mare to him this spring. Next thing... he was gone over to Ireland. Never got a reason why though.

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There was a reason but I do not want to fill the forum with it. You can contact me privately if you care to know. However I do have another Cremello available via shipped semen this season within the EU, all others are not available shipped semen unfortunately. But maybe Milky Way will be back to UK for the 2009 season. I do have someone that is interested in standing him at an AI center.
 
I have the first foal by Milky way - She is a super Palomino Leopard. She is three now and is due to be broken soon, which I am very excited about as she moves like a dream, luckily for me she has inherited her Daddy's fantastic trot and his laid back temperament. That said, I have visited Gwen's stud a number of times and have had the pleasure of handling her stallions and they are all easy to handle and a pleasure to be around, she welcomes visitors so anyone who has the opportunity to visit, should do so. I have tried to post a picture of Metis as a foal but am having problems - comes with being old!! But once my daughter gets out of bed (being a teenager she only rises for Dinner!!!) I am sure she can show me
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ever hopeful - i was in exactly the same situation rang and emailed centyfield several times and no replies. Eventually i asked on here if anyone knew what was going on and was told he had gone to ireland.
 
not normally a follower of the forum scene but having been alerted by a considerable number of people to this thread we are posting a reply.

As most people are aware there is always two sides to every story and as the old saying goes empty vessels shout loudest, as a stud our aim is to try and get each clients mare in foal but sadly sometimes this is not always acheivable for various reasons.



While Milky Way was with us he was the most nice natured and sweetest stallion to deal with in hand and the foals that we have seen or been sent pictures with so far have been stunning and the owners are justifiably proud of them and some of these can be seen on our site, and more pics will be added as and when either us or flying colours receive them.

Flying Colours has already posted that there is reasons as to why Milky Way is not standing in England for 2008 and we at Centyfield are equally as happy to reply by private email to any one inquiring.
 
Back to the original question we have a cracking palomino colt by Milky Way here - piccie here http://www.rollestone-farm.com/IMAGES/CARAMAC/MAC-10MAY08-1000.jpg

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Not sure if that will work!

Unfortunately the other 3 mares I tried to get a Milky Way baby did not take after 3 inseminations, and the one other mare who did get pregnant on her 3rd attempt lost her baby over the winter so just the one golden baby for us by Milky Way!
 
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