Following on from all the rider weights threads

8 horses. Wow that's a comprehensive study, taking into consideration different breeds and types, different forms of work, age, conformation... and let's not even consider long term effects...

Whilst the conclusion may well fit with what you'd expect, I object to what can only be classed as a pilot study being paraded around as scientific fact :rolleyes:
 
From the abstract:
In conclusion, the data suggest that horses with wider loin and thicker cannon bone circumference became less sore when carrying heavier weight loads.
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No ****, Sherlock :rolleyes:

JFTD - I think they are classing it as 'Science' 'cause they measured things and used percentages ;) :D Do you have access to the full JEVS article at work? Might be 'interesting' :) At least they did use 'data suggest' and not 'suggests' which I have been seeing a lot recently :rolleyes: :D
 
rhino said:
JFTD - I think they are classing it as 'Science' 'cause they measured things and used percentages ;) :D Do you have access to the full JEVS article at work? Might be 'interesting' :) At least they did use 'data suggest' and not 'suggests' which I have been seeing a lot recently :rolleyes: :D
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No, it's subscription only...

There are many academics here who would disagree about "data suggest". I regularly bicker about these things but I am a humble functionary with no authority...
 
JFTD said:
8 horses. Wow that's a comprehensive study, taking into consideration different breeds and types, different forms of work, age, conformation... and let's not even consider long term effects...

Whilst the conclusion may well fit with what you'd expect, I object to what can only be classed as a pilot study being paraded around as scientific fact :rolleyes:
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But i can't count to 8 with one hand so it must be a big number for big school :mad::(

My Dad doesn't let me discuss studies with him anymore because it usually results in me endlessly listing variables that haven't been accounted for :rolleyes::D:D:D:D
 
Actually, rereading that quote

In conclusion, the data suggest that horses with wider loin and thicker cannon bone circumference became less sore when carrying heavier weight loads.
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Is it just me or could that also be read that by carrying heavier weights, the horses with wider loins/more bone became less sore?!

:D
 
gosh, so we should all be weighing down our heavyweights so their joints become less sore :eek:

I'm off to strap some bricks to my old boy's rugs :D
 
I also can't understand why they feel the need to say
Those horses that were least sore from the exercise had wider loins, the part of a horse's back located between their last rib and croup.
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Why would anyone who didn't know where the loins were be interested in reading the report, and if they were why did the author(s) not explain where the croup was too?
 
JFTD - where was the quackometer thingy? I'd love to give it a go on the 'Horse Science News' site :D :D

Taken from the home page:

Horses Find Blue Floors Scary
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British Racehorses Seldom Pay Their Way
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At Times Horses Simply Can't Remember
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Most Equestrian Coaches Don't Understand Training
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Sounds very, erm, scientific... :confused: :rolleyes: Though I do love the capitalization (used the z as it is obviously an American site ;) )
 
Might be of interest... A review of the paper by Kentucky Equine Research

I don't have access to read the original research paper... This is brief but appears to give a little more information than the article...

"The authors indicate more studies considering total loin area and muscle depth as well as hoof size could be helpful in determining weight-carrying capacity of light riding horses"

I'd guess the actual research is less inclined to state the findings in this study as an absolute for all horse types in the way the article appears to...
 
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