following on from my rescue dog lunging at someone thread

[lexiedhb]

Better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and prove the point. Never have I advocated beating a dog in to submission. I realise that you may well be unsure of your argument, but false and patently incorrect statements do little to support your case.

Alec.

Yeah im the fool, who refuses to accept that there is more than one way to train dogs (some heavily studied, and published). Im not unsure of my argument. You have in the past advocated using force on dogs. I believe from previous posts that you would not work with a dog who grabbed hold of a stangers coat- others are simply saying it is totally possible to work with/ manage/ re train (without the use of force) a dog of this nature IF you are so inclined.

 

[Booboos]

So firstly I've explained nothing at all, and then in the next breath, my argument is poorly formed and unconvincing. Would you agree that your "professional authority" was anything other than flawed?

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I've just spent the last half hour attempting to get my thoughts and points into a semblance of order, and to better help you understand the points which I would raise with you, I then read it through and realised that you're not actually interested, are you? I continue to return to the fact that you have advised us that you have very little experience of aggressive dogs, but yet you continue to argue. Correcting you is becoming tedious and pointless.

As we seem unable to make any progress, beyond going around in circles, I'm going to return to what I was doing previously, and I'll bid you good night.

Alec.

The obvious answer is that you have said more than one things. When it comes to your claim of expertise, the reasons you discount a whole school of training thought or what you would have done differently, you have said nothing. When it comes to saying that other people are wrong you argument is poor (see previous sentence).

Ha ha, good excuse. I am either too ignorant, too interested in studies rather than 'real life' or not interested in your ideas at all that it's not worth bothering to express them. Good stuff, clearly all my fault!

I am not too sure why your main point of focus is my ignorance. That is well established, I am ignorant, let's move on - enlighten me.

 

[Zero00000]

I hope the dog has a home for Xmas

Aggressive dogs take a lot of time, And yes, I do have personal experience (My current dogs are sops, my friend dog was not)

It takes time, patience, dedication and lots of other things.

But My extremely dominant, and aggressive dog, 'came right' and turned out to be the best dog I ever had, so much so, I wished dogs could live forever!

 

[YasandCrystal]

OP you have made the right decision however heartbreaking that is just now. You would have faced years of having to compromise for your dog.

I got a rescue GSD many years ago and he started the same behaviour as your rescue. He was fine when visitors came and sat down, but dare anyone move he had their foot or worse still their arm in his mouth. As he 'settled in' the behaviour became worse presumably as he felt he was protecting his family.

I kept the dog, I had grown so attached - he was a loyal friend, but he had to be shut out anytime we had visitors. Dog friendly guests welcomed him muzzled in their company. He bit my mother once quite badly and we forgave him and he lived. He never bit anyone ever again as I unfailingly ensured I took precautions so he couldn't. His saving grace was that I knew he was safe on a walk out in the open, he was very obedient and had no interest in people on walks, he just had fear aggression in the home.

It was 9 years of difficult ownership on my part. Once he was gone I bought a Swedish Vallhund puppy and the difference iin having stress free dog ownership was immense and made me realise just how hard it had been with Beau.