Following on from my warmbloods eventing post - Hanoverians?

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OK, I know that they are all different but what would you say to eventing a purebred Hanoverian?

Not an overly chunky one, quite neat and compact infact.

Just worried about how stuffy they would feel to ride (all the ones I have ridden have felt quite dead compared to TBs)

Thoughts?



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Hannoverian is simply a term for german warmblood really.So it will mean that some will have a fair mix of TB lines on there. It doesnt necessarily mean its going to be a carthorse. If you can find out its pedigree you can see what % of TB it has....
 
VERY very exciting, as he already has sired loads of international eventers as well as all his abs top dressage and SJ stock I dont think that you need to worry about this one not having enough blood. Lauries is all racehorse breeding!- I think he was bred for racing then used as a sport horse sire.
 
I have a Hano and I can't see him eventing. He has a very scopy jump and can shift but don't think he would have the stamina over a long track. He is almost too careful. He is probably heavier than you would be looking for. To be fair he is very powerful and is definitely built for dressage which is what we do. He doesn't feel dead, and my other horse is a tb, but I do know what you mean. He hasn't got that something Haddy has, or had he is 29 now!
 
I evented a hannxtb and he was uber uber talented, but so quirky, and always got 2 phases exceptionally but the other would always let him down... he had too much personality for his own good! You really did have to just leave him to it and let him make his own mistakes (especially sj!)

Saying that I had so much fun on him, and hes probably my favourite horse I have (hes an old man now
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), but was so frustrating, could do the most expressive dressage test, show jump without touching a pole and was a speed machine/athlete cross country but never on the same day!!!
 
I am in Yorkshire!!!!! I would go with you but am off to Devon on Sunday.

Yes, if he is a modern bred hann he will be light and elegant and should have no probs. Warmbloods can very successfully event. After all I seem to remember a certain grey warmblood winning a gold meda at the last Olympicsl! Just watch out that he does not have very dressaggy movement and ve very elevated in front as he will not find galloping fast so easy.

As an example here is my pure bred hann mare who most people think is part TB (she has no TB up front in her pedigree) and who would probably excel in eventing:

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My boy is Hannoverian X TB and i event him. He is great fun, although very quirky and has quite a bit of attitude! He doesnt like to touch a fence and has super paces and does a good dressage. XC he is brave and fairly fast. He can be very stubborn though which i gather is a Hannoverian trait. Out hacking if he sees something he doesnt like he will plant all four feet and refuse to budge! He will quite happily stand there for 10 mins until he decides to move which can be exceedingly frustrating. No amount of coaxing, bashing, kicking will shift him.
He does make me laugh a lot though!
 
the thing i find the most difficult is the 'big' movement to be honest. tho you already know my opinion on their overall suitability to event!!
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but there have been a couple good ones i think but i would prefer a dash of real 'blood' myself.
 
From the bloodlines, sounds like this horse is bred more for dressage. However it clearly has a good dose of TB blood and might be what you are looking for. De Niro is a superb sire of dressage horses. A Grand Prix himself too. Lauries Crusador offspring are also mainly found in dressage, they dont seem to have great jumping ability, and his jumping index as a sire is only 69 (dressage is 132)
However the sire is only half the story, and this one may well jump superbly. His sons are normal attractive modern types so dont think this one will be a chunky old fashioned stamp.
 
Not sure if your saw my post on your last thread as I only spotted it earlier!

I bought this horse a few years ago, full on branded Han (by Carismo) with the idea that with decent dressage and SJ, the XC would sort itself out. I tried and tried for 3 years but it was never going to happen, he just hadn't got the balls when it mattered. Sometimes he'd fly round over novice BE fences, other times I couldn't get round a local RC mini XC.


(this is a pic with his new owner, not me, he's now living the life of riley as a RC superstar)

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii278/jcherrod/QandH.jpg

He had the most loving temperament but not the brain. He was however the old school Han type though did show a turn of speed every now and again
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Lauries Crusador?! !!!!!!!!
WOW he is NO.1 sport horse stallion I think, and very much 100% pure thoroughbred!!!

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http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?z=U6i_t0&d=lauries+crusador

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And how many of his offspring jump for a living?
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He was "talent spotted" at least in to a large extent, and brought in to improve canters, which he has done famously. I think if you look you'll find him on the dressage list and general consensus is his kids don't jump particularly well at all, although he does have 69 with sj points

So much for stereotypes.
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Btw, I LOVE Lauries Crusador and everything I've seen by him. Oddly they often look like they *should* jump so maybe he's just such a phenomenal dressage sire it's eclipsed all else. On the upside he's knows for passing on his trainable temperament and ridability, although, in stud book talk, that doesn't always mean what people think it does.
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I'm curious O_B what FEI eventers he's sired. I can't find any on his list but that doesn't mean much.

Shutterfly is Hannoverian - there doesn't seem anything wrong with his gas pedal.
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It really depends how the horse is bred and what it's bred for. I suspect there much be tens of thousands of Hannoverians but now - far too many to generalise. Yes, AS A GROUP they have not been bred to event and so would not be my "go to" breed but that doesn't mean an individual can't be suitable. I'd be tempted to say sj lines might be more likely to produce an eventer but then some of them don't jump in a form I'd consider appropriate for the job. And some of the dressage lines are bred to be very hot, although in direct contrast to that generalisation there are some very dressage bred lines doing well in the American hunters because of the way they jump. Go figure.

Btw, the horse in question seems very "dressage bred". But who knows without seeing the actual horse. And it may be priced to sell exactly because it's not living up to the expectations of its breeding - I've certainly seen that before - in which case it might be dying to event.
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Tarr steps, I did say, ''I think'' he was No.1 sport horse sire, which means that I wasnt totally sure!
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Ok so he is only a dressage sire not so much a jumps sire. But am sure that Ive heard that he has got jumping/event horses, not in the UK so much but in Germany/Europe ( despite his poor jumping index) Two of his international eventers are Lady Lorridaile ( Germany )
and La Li Lu ( Germany )
 
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