Following on from other XC threads: How much should the rider be doing on the XC?

The Yogi session we had at the Fall Training at Newmarket was very interesting, not just the cc-ing of some vid from Weston (1* and 2* iirc), but because he went through the different "gears" according to the type of fence you were jumping.

I think kerilli reported back after the session so it should be somewhere on t'internet and might be a useful aide memoire for anyone less experienced, or a reference point for further discussion on this thread.
 
Baydale said:
The Yogi session we had at the Fall Training at Newmarket was very interesting, not just the cc-ing of some vid from Weston (1* and 2* iirc), but because he went through the different "gears" according to the type of fence you were jumping.

I think kerilli reported back after the session so it should be somewhere on t'internet and might be a useful aide memoire for anyone less experienced, or a reference point for further discussion on this thread.
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yes i did, and i thought i put it on here but i can't find it under "yogi" or "newmarket" or "safety" or any of the other words i would have used, drats. will have a look on old harddrive and fish it out. it was a very very enlightening lecture.
 
SpottedCat said:
You did, you're just not using the search function efficiently ;) :p

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=417482&highlight=fall+training
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Aaah, but that's all about the Fall Training (and how rubbish I was at it), not about Yogi's talk, and I know i typed all that up. It was about the diff approaches for diff types of fences, very detailed...
Oh Conqueror of the Search Engine, please work your magic again, cos I can't find the chuffing thing... ta.
 
The only stuff I can find is about the eventing safety forum at Hartpury, and I have no recollection of you posting about Yogi's talk at Newmarket beyond the thread I linked above....which doesn't mean it didn't happen as contrary to popular belief I don't spend my whole life on here ;)

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=345493&highlight=yogi+safety+eventing

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=354918&highlight=yogi+safety+eventing

http://www.eventingworldwide.com/training-for-safety/
 
I remember it, too - I wonder if you did it in someone else's thread though?

Just a note about the "coffin canter" . . . this is a concept from way back when the first "proper" level was Novice, so 500-550m/m minimum. Even those of us that came after that were taught by people and read books from that era. (The USCTA Handbook was the "go to" training and conditioning bible in North America even as late as 1990 and the lowest level it discussed seriously was Prelim, which is Novice.) So the "gear change" down was from MUCH faster than anyone doing a 80/90 or even a 100 is (should be) going. Which is not to say you shouldn't adjust suitably for the fence and rebalance accordingly, just that at those levels it needn't necessarily be a huge change in speed or stride length so if that's what you're looking for you might well end up underpowered.
 
Suffer from much the same tbh. The feeling that I *should* be doing something coming into a fence. Recently I entered a unaff HT and decided that I would just try and ride him forwards and let just roll on and jump out of a stride. The upshot was he was fine and apart from a steering he needed very little setting up (at my level anyway - be90). You have to experiment I think and maybe if you're like me not think too much!
 
Re xcountry instruction, we have always used Caroline Jeanne. My daughter, who is very nervous, says that you always do more than you believe you can and whilst a bit scary at the time, feels amazing afterwards. She tells you what you need to know and is very positive. A BE instructor with trying.
 
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