FOR A FRIEND OF A FRIEND>>>>>FREE TO GOOD HOME OR ITS GOING TO KENNELS ON THURSDAY

becca1305 said:
The issue is many people dont see a 13 yr old as coming into his prime despite the actuality of it. I agree PTS is the kindest option for an unrideable horse, in pain, not suited to be field ornament etc but a healthy rideable horse, its a disgrace. a rescue centre would aim to find him a permanent home and many only loan the horses out on a permanent basis so they can continually watch their care, I know many are inundated atm with owners trying to offload before the winter :( but hopefully somewhere will have room for him, or better yet someone on here will home him for life :). All credit to the OP for trying to find him a home but I find the owner's decision of get rid or shoot it, rather horrific, I could NEVER do that.
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Lets hope that you are never in a situation where you have to! When you can't pay the mortgage/bills and come to the sad situation that you have to sell the horse... Then you try to sell the horse, cheap as chips, and because the market is so poor, you can't unless you sell it for nothing and it is likely to go to a dealer...possibly end up in the auctions...... So perhaps putting the horse down may be the least painful route in the long run. Do you know that the owner hasn't tried rescues etc?? Its very easy to condemn unless you're standing in their shoes. Lets hope that this works and a home is found.
 
I only know a bit about the horse (and a little about his history) as thats all my friend told me. I just offered to put it on here to get as many people to see this as possible in the hope to find him a home.

I can pass on a telephone number of the owner and/or my friends contact details for further information.
 
Honey08 said:
Lets hope that you are never in a situation where you have to! When you can't pay the mortgage/bills and come to the sad situation that you have to sell the horse... Then you try to sell the horse, cheap as chips, and because the market is so poor, you can't unless you sell it for nothing and it is likely to go to a dealer...possibly end up in the auctions...... So perhaps putting the horse down may be the least painful route in the long run. Do you know that the owner hasn't tried rescues etc?? Its very easy to condemn unless you're standing in their shoes. Lets hope that this works and a home is found.
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You're so wise Honey08!
I think we are fortunate that we find it hard to imagine being so desperate to get rid of a healthy horse that pts is the only viable option, and I hope that none of us ever find ourselves in that situation. Without knowing the whole story we can't condemn the owners. Fingers crossed for the poor chap.
 
Hope he finds a good home too, totally understand where the owners are coming from. Sitting on our computers with no real understanding of the situation we are in a great place to judge, aren't we?
 
becca1305 said:
All credit to the OP for trying to find him a home but I find the owner's decision of get rid or shoot it, rather horrific, I could NEVER do that.
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What if you lost your source of income? What comes first....roof over your head? ...or keeping your horse?

We had to sell of a couple of our horses, whom we loved, when OH was made redundant, and things are tough now....but we are in a better position than what we were......but I tell you this, I will feed my son first, than become blinkered, and keeping a horse that is keeping food from my table...is not on my list. I am afraid, the horses, as much as I love them, would have to go.

You have to be a realist, NOT an idealist.

But we have been here before, with this same thing, and wasn't there the argument of '..but if you haven't got X-amount in the bank, you should not have horses!'...
 
I never claimed this owner hadnt tried, just like a previous poster says this concept of a thursday deadline seems rather callous. She may well have tried every outlet available to her, but then of course she has not because it has only just arrived on the forum page with a thursday deadline! and yes she may well not have known about here but I personally would have researched each and every avenue available via the wonders of google. I couldnt do that to any of mine and would have to be 100% sure that no matter what I wouldnt have to shoot/auction them off if their circumstances were the same as this lad. whether that meant selling another more saleable horse, or simply knowing I would always be able to keep (having monetary security or land to keep them on) thats what I would do. Im sorry but I wouldnt take the risk of something I know is likely to accumulate large bills unless I knew I could afford it just like I wouldnt do it with a dog if I wasnt sure I could afford that forever. I know in the very rare circumstances huge financial downfall and a complete exhaustion of all avenues could make the suggested shooting the only option, however the thread stated due to "lack of time to ride" which is what I based my judgement on. This is just my opinion, as has been echoed on another thread about this, and I admire the OP greatly for actually trying to find a home for this chap to whom she has no ties :).
 
Its so naive to think that you would never be in their shoes. You just don't know what life is going to throw at you, no matter how well you think you're covered. Hopefully you never will be, and the same for the rest of us, but sometimes s**t happens.

A year ago I had an accident that meant I've not earned my full wage for over 12 months now. I've my own land and stables, and we make our own haylage, but we've still struggled to afford them in the last year. The land is simply too wet to just throw them out etc. I've had to seriously use a lot of my savings to keep things going. A lot of people don't even have savings.

I've been working in a different role to my usual one, along with a few other people that have had illnesses/accidents/life changeing situations. People who have come down with cancer (my friend died of it last year. She had an old horse with early navicular that couldn't be sold. Her hubby wasn't horsey, and TBH the horse was his last concern when he was nursing his dying wife. Luckily another livery took over for him). Another girl at work had her husband (a successful self employed builder) fall off a scaffolding at work and end up paralysed. They will get compensation for it in the long run, but three years on, the lawyers are still fighting it out while she has to pay all the mortgage and do all the shopping/school runs and try and keep her job. Their insurance won't pay until the claim is properly sorted out, and the lawyers aren't in any hurry. Another girl has a child with leukemia that she has had to nurse. These are just three examples of things that have happened suddenly to people.

Just because its only just been posted on this forum doesn't mean that they haven't tried - eighteen months ago I didn't even know it existed. Perhaps they don't. To get friends to try and help everywhere they can sounds like they ARE trying.

Like I said, I hope that none of us end up in that position, but you never know.
 
I said in rare circumstances I think all the things you have listed would come under my definition of rare or extreme.
I am not naive I can guarantee that i can afford to keep every single horse in my care for their life span should it be necessary. I know that i am lucky with this & the majority of people have to opt for the 'beyond reasonable doubt' option, I merely take umbridge with people who take on horses that they are unsure they can afford from the start. If the OP had put for financial reasons I would have thought how terrible poor person I hope wasnt one of those buy without thought types, & hope the horse can be saved as its such a waste, but as you say, most peoples circumstances can change without notice. The reason I was unimpressed was because the reason stated for sale was 'not enough time to ride' or similar. I have no issues with horses put down for their health or simply because their owners cannot financially afford to keep; that I merely think is terribly sad and I am very grateful I will never have to do that as I personally couldnt. Which is all I have said from the start. I dont disagree with your views at all tbh.
 
Still say if you can't afford to pay for the £200 to transport the horse, how on earth can you seriously contemplate taking another horse on? and a large TB coming into winter at that. Presume the horse will arrive "naked" and just basic rugs will make a serious chunk as well.

And (can't be bothered to go al the way back through the posts!) - the person who would never sell ANY of her horses on and as a final resort would put hers down (inc youngstock..) ... well while there are awful people out there, you are making the assumption that absolutely no one else can look after your horses as well as you can. Lucky the general market doesn't think like that or none of us would ever have any horses to buy!

We don't know the whole story as Honey says. If I was on the look out for a hunter, I would talk to the people - and the poster who knows the horse and is in the same hunt. I am a little less shocked now seeing as how people are really trying to get rid and prices seem to be all over the place - and the "free to a good home" is becoming more normal whereas even 2 years ago, you would never see it.
 
brighteyes said:
Just beware of a woman from Wales getting in on this...
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Puppy said:
Very true. Beware:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-us-find-Woody/252120358165459
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bumblelion said:
I agree with this, now I'm in the know!!
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Yes whatever you do,DO NOT LET HER GET WIND OF THIS OR POOR HOSEY WILL END UP AT "POTTERS"
Have you pm'd ""lovely""" to give the name so she can tell her friend to be warned???????
Shes from Newport and she uses 2 names.J.E and J.Y
You know who I mean!!!
 
Luci07 said:
And (can't be bothered to go al the way back through the posts!) - the person who would never sell ANY of her horses on and as a final resort would put hers down (inc youngstock..) ... well while there are awful people out there, you are making the assumption that absolutely no one else can look after your horses as well as you can. Lucky the general market doesn't think like that or none of us would ever have any horses to buy!
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I'm not making that assumption at all, it is more about not being able to trust that people are genuine, having seen all the horrible stories of horse loaned/sold to good homes that turn out not to be so. Probably more that I don't trust my own ability to judge people. I suppose many people don't buy with the intention of a forever home, I do, I know when I buy one that it will never be sold on, I just can't do it. I could not spend my life worrying about where they were and if they were ok.
 
sharon1959 said:
Have you pm'd ""lovely""" to give the name so she can tell her friend to be warned???????
Shes from Newport and she uses 2 names.J.E and J.Y
You know who I mean!!!
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Thank-you. I've recieved an pm about this person.

My initials are J.Y but I promise that the person in Newport is not me! (Plus I'm in North Devon)

I have passed on her name/location to my friend so we can prevent him from going to her.

Someone said previously that there is a group about it all on facebook? If I've read it correctly can someone send me the link to it???
 
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loverly said:
Thank-you. I've recieved an pm about this person.

My initials are J.Y but I promise that the person in Newport is not me! (Plus I'm in North Devon)

I have passed on her name/location to my friend so we can prevent him from going to her.

Someone said previously that there is a group about it all on facebook? If I've read it correctly can someone send me the link to it???
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I was the one who pm'd you about that woman.
 
We were in a very similar situation last year with a Sales livery. Again he was an ex racer, 12yrs and had hunted and P2P, he however was a non jumper and could be a bit hair raising if he had to jump on the hunt field. End of the story is in a similar sitaution, the owners decided to have the horse put down and went through with it. Much fairer on the animal than being passed from home to home for very little money although it was very sad as he was a nice person to deal with day to day and not a bad ride really. No one should condone having an animal like this PTS as its better than a life time of auctions and homes without money to care for a blood horse properly. And I am also of the opinion if you can't get enough cash together to pay transport within a couple of days you shouldnt take on another horse!
 
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