Forget-Me-Not Farm Chaff

FaldingwoodLivery said:
My only thought when looking at the bag was to feed the reccomended amount needed to get all the vitamins and minerals that bag would last the average 500kg horse about 5 days, and at over £8 a bag that's very expensive, much more expensive than a balancer that does the same job or a small handful of hifi with a vit + min supplement in.
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It was launched at £5.50 per bag . . .
 
EKW said:
They are, the only difference is that the Racehorse Cubes are fully balanced. The No. 4 aren't so you need to buy a balancer as well.
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Not according to Baileys' website:

http://www.baileyshorsefeeds.co.uk/whatproduct/condition/no4.htm

"With a superior vitamin and mineral profile, including chelated (Bioplex®) minerals, Top Line Conditioning Cubes are incredibly versatile "

"Ideal fed on their own for maximum effect, although chaff and/or sugar beet can be added if desired."

I wonder if you are confusing it with Bailey's No. 1 which is pure micronised wheat with no added vit/mins which would require some sort of balancer or vit/min supplement.
 
Thank you for your message, please find below the full nutritional analysis breakdown for Forget-Me-Not Farm Vanilla Complete Chaff, if you need any further info please let me know.

Typical Nutritional Analysis
Dry Matter % 90
DE (MJ/kg) 6.5
Protein % 8
Oil % 2.5
Ash % 8
Fibre % 30
WSC % 5
Starch % 2.5
Lysine % 0.25
Calcium % 0.6
Phosphorous % 0.2
Magnesium % 0.1
Sodium % 0.5
Chloride % 0.5
Potassium% 1.5
Sulphur % 0.2
Copper mg/kg 10
Iron mg/kg 200
Manganese mg/kg 40
Zinc mg/kg 35
Iodine mg/kg 0.25
Selenium mg/kg 0.15
Cobalt mg/kg 0.15
Vitamin A (IU/kg) 10000
Vitamin D (IU/kg) 1000
Vitamin E (IU/kg) 150
Biotin (mg/kg) 0.5
 
I bought a bag the other day. Served my purpose. Horse needed to have antibiotics for a week and every other chaff bag was so large I would have ended up throwing most of it away. The horse seemed to like it, smelt nice and was great to mix in his meds in. Not sure I would sadly feel encouraged to feed my horses on it as a regular thing, as the packaging is off putting, seemingly aiming it at kids ponies.
 
TGM said:
Not according to Baileys' website:

http://www.baileyshorsefeeds.co.uk/whatproduct/condition/no4.htm

"With a superior vitamin and mineral profile, including chelated (Bioplex®) minerals, Top Line Conditioning Cubes are incredibly versatile "

"Ideal fed on their own for maximum effect, although chaff and/or sugar beet can be added if desired."

I wonder if you are confusing it with Bailey's No. 1 which is pure micronised wheat with no added vit/mins which would require some sort of balancer or vit/min supplement.
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I was quoting what a few people have told me who have opted to use the racehorse cubes as they are more economical and the differences were minimal - I don't feed mixes at all.

However I just looked and

Baileys number 4 ingredients

Micronised Wheat, Nutritionally Improved Straw, Wheatfeed, Distillers’ Grains, Micronised Soya Beans, Molasses, Soya Oil, Calcium Carbonate, Vitamins and Minerals, Calcined Magnesite, Sodium Chloride

Racehorse cubes ingredients

Micronised Wheat, Nutritionally Improved Straw, Wheatfeed, Distillers’ Grains, Micronised Soya Beans, Molasses, Soya Oil, Calcium Carbonate, Vitamins and Minerals, Calcined Magnesite, Sodium Chloride

Obviously slightly different proportions. The latter is slightly higher in protein 13% so instead of 12.5 and has calcium and phosphorous listed in the nutritional info but given that ingredients are listed in order of amount not a huge difference. Both have minerals but without the breakdown of each you can't compare it to the RDA.

Another reason why I feed straights and balance myself ;)

However this post does highlight to me how much people are affected by marketing so there are people on this thread who would be put off buying the chaff because of the bag design so I could completely understand if very similar formulations were produced and marketed differently.
 
You know what I think it is cute (Im 26 and not a particularly 'pink' person!) and its a step towards lower sugar chaffs suitable for good doers when you need to give them something. I drive quite far to get huge bags of timothy hay chop, and my mare does seem to be different now she's not having alfalfa (I've faffed with many things and think this may be the key) so if given the choice between hi fi lite which she had before and this pink concoction I may well give it a whirl :-)

I wouldn't choose to feed soya oil either (i don't know what I prefer over that or light covering of molasses) Thankfully I see no reason to change as long as the shop I go to keeps stocking simple systems.
 
Criso- Its the same stuff. I feed it as its £2 cheaper a bag, however baileys website has changed. When there was a thread on this previously N4 and N11 were exactly the same,and on the two feed bags I have the nutritional values are exactly the same.

I think your on to something feed straights as TBH most feed companies just put the same feed into different bags IMO! I know someone who worked for a feed company said the the cow and horse feed was the same thing.
 
Criso, I think you misunderstood my post! I wasn't disagreeing with the statement that the top line cubes and racehorse cubes were similar in composition, but with the poster who said that the top line cubes weren't balanced and therefore needed to be fed alongside a balancer!
 
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