Found this on e-bay....!!!!

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Hmmmm...not sure what to think about this
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Seems they will sell anything nowadays.
 
...erm, height, pedigree, health/swab certs?! I know you can buy fertile chicken eggs on eBay, I guess this is the same thing? Wouldn't a responsible stallion onwer want to check who their stallion was going to be mating with before they pitched up at the yard?
 
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...erm, height, pedigree, health/swab certs?! I know you can buy fertile chicken eggs on eBay, I guess this is the same thing? Wouldn't a responsible stallion onwer want to check who their stallion was going to be mating with before they pitched up at the yard?

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Exactly!

People were offering their dogs out to stud through ebay last year, and the same argument was raised, any responsible breeder would want to assess what their animal was being bred with, Im sure its against ebay rules as the dog ones were removed.

Perhaps worth reporting to ebay.
 
Personally I don't see a problem with this advert as it is no different from people advertising stallion coverings via their own websites.
I am sure that checks will be done by the owner with regard to the health of the mares that are being offered for covering than simply allowing them to turn up at the yard on spec as it were.
Also the 100 being offered as a buy it now is just the seller trying to save on costs of advertising on Ebay as it is far cheaper to have dutch style auctions and pay for multiple listings than to pay for 100 separate buy it nows of £200 a time.
Techinically I don't see how it is against ebay rules regarding livestock since people regularly sell 'live' insects on there as pet food when many such as stick insects can be kept as pets in their own rights. Whether nymphs or eggs they are still living since the eggs contain living nymphs.
It is the same with the chicken/duck eggs etc as they are fertilised and carry embryo chicks again living animals that have not yet hatched.
The seller is simply offering the services of their stallion and is basically selling one half of the make up of life ie sperm.
They are not selling a live creature nor a fertilised egg. So I don't see what the issue is?
It is the same with the dogs that were supposedly being offered as stud ( which I didn't see myself last year but have no need to look for that anyway). If it was a buy it now rather than auction I would be happy with that but I do have a moral issue with bidding for the services though.
I am sure that all relevant parties would perform thorough checks prior to mating to make sure both animals were both healthy enough and that the mating was a viable undertaking.
Caroline
 
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I am sure that checks will be done by the owner with regard to the health of the mares that are being offered for covering than simply allowing them to turn up at the yard on spec as it were.

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How can the seller do this when they are BOUND by ebay terms and conditions to supply the item to the buyer when the buyer purchases and pays for it.

Its not a case of biddng and buying to be CONSIDERED, if you list on ebay you are saying you are selling the item to WHOEVER bids on it, so unless the seller wants to break ebays rules in this way, then they will HAVE to supply the semen to whoever buys it!

As for the dogs supposedly being offered, there was quite a few! And no responsible dog breeder will allow their dog to mate with just anything, they would want to protect the line and the breed.

Saying that no buyer with half a brain would breed their bitch with just any dog they had seen on ebay, there are many reputable breeders around, professional ones who actually care about making sure a breeds quality is maintained.
 
Well how about this then a change to the listing saying that potential buyers should email before bidding with details of their mares otherwise the transaction will be declared null and void.
Surely an intelligent approach to an issue which seems to have raised a few questions by some.
It certainly makes sense if the seller does this and then they will be seen to be acting responsibly and vetting potential brood mares beforehand.
Caroline
 
i dont see the problem with the advert - its just a way to advertise their stallion - stable yards, instructors, horsebox repairers etc all advertise their services on their so why not a stud? if someone turned up with an unsuitable mare - i am sure they would not cover it. if i saw a suitable stallion on ebay for one of my mares - i would persue it ie - ask what they thought of my mare, asked more details about the stallion and arange a viewing etc
 
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if someone turned up with an unsuitable mare - i am sure they would not cover it.

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TBH I don't think they would. I would understand completely if they were just advertising like some do to sell thier horse but they are not, they are selling its services which is not resposible trading at all.
Also if they did refuse a mare they would risk recieving negative feedback and being banned for not producing goods but taking the money.
 
I would not have thought they would take money in advance and I know I for one would not accept paypal payments on this due to the excessive charges the company charges you as a seller. If I was a buyer with a broodmare I would much rather make further enquiries and once I was happy to proceed commit to buy and then pay in cash at the establishment. If once I was there I was not happy with the services being offered as a buyer I could refuse to complete the transaction and as could the seller if they were not happy either.

With regard to negative feedback I would not have thought this would bother the seller either. I know plenty of sellers who have continued to trade on there despite ripping people off ebay either took no action or took ages to. They had negative feedback and could not care less about any terms of agreement under ebay rules.
Ebay seem like a toothless tiger at times and I have had a few dealings with them in which I have not been happy with the outcome of a complaint.

I think there are far more serious breeches of sale and conditions taking place on the site like sellers refusing to complete or else sending only half the goods (or not at all) or not as described etc than someone simply selling the services of their stallion!

I am not in a position to comment entirely on this issue though since I am not a breeder. It would be interesting to read any viewpoints on this issue from breeders or owners of broodmares on the H & H forum.

Caroline
 
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