Fracking and horses

fburton said:
I had too, until they were filled in - for which I had to contribute £5000 towards the cost of the work.


Even if the fracking process caused no direct damage at all, the arguments for leaving that additional source of carbon in the ground are quite strong if our government is serious about climate change targets, which they may well not be (despite what they say and sign)!

http://www.monbiot.com/2013/03/14/frozen-assets/
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I don't understand the climate change advantage in using gas that you have bought from others verses using your own .
 
fatpiggy said:
We have no rights whatsoever about any mineral rights under our land.
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That isn't true - land owners around the UK make a fortune out of mineral extraction every single year. The minerals reserved by the Crown are oil, gas, coal, gold and silver. The rest is owned either by the current landowner or whichever sensible person reserved the mineral or manorial rights when they sold the land.
 
Django Django said:
There is a lot more info online and it all suggests it's not looking good for animals. The main problem being that they sit the used chemical water in pools to evaporate..in this country..evaporation is out of the question, were on constant flood alert at the moment! so where will the chemicals go? On to pasture and crops? Seems so stupid to sell the fracking idea as a way for us to have an independent energy supply when we may need to become dependent on food from elsewhere? I've just joined the #talkfracking debate to learn more. From what I've read so far...give me wind turbines any day..this does not look good for horse owners ��
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Except that you apply to put up a turbine or two and all the "its going to ruin my view" protesters start shouting. Personally I like turbines since - many of my big local farms are up in the hills and I think lend something to the already stark landscape, and I think wave power has a lot going for it.
 
fatpiggy said:
Except that you apply to put up a turbine or two and all the "its going to ruin my view" protesters start shouting. Personally I like turbines since - many of my big local farms are up in the hills and I think lend something to the already stark landscape, and I think wave power has a lot going for it.
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Unless your a migrating fish or a seal .
 
Goldenstar said:
Unless your a migrating fish or a seal .
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Collateral damage unfortunately. I don't see anyone complaining about the number of birds killed by planes, or by cars on the roads. Rightly or wrongly, there will always be casualties associated with human endeavour.
 
Our water supplies are far,far more precious than the short term gain from fracking.
It is a filthy industry and there is no way of knowing where the drilling chemicals, which include cyanide, will end up and no way to protect groundwater or land. Pipes do fracture, and joins leak,and it is mad to think otherwise.

It will waste and devastate our rural landscape. Unsupportable.
 
I don't like the idea of fracking, never have, they have just found a MASSIVE source of oil I think it is under an area near Horley, not very far from me.Right under a horse stud farm, feel sorry for them.
Here where I live on the North Downs we live on a 800 foot bore hole straight in to the chalk, fresh spring water on tap brought up via the local pumping station, if they muck that up we are in big trouble.
WHY don't the government invest more in solar, wind turbines, water power and the often neglected GEO THERMAL which is always on tap, no variations as in wind, water or solar power, it's 100% constant.
Our local park has a pavilion now tapped in to Geo Thermal to heat it, best thing our local council have ever done.
Silent and efficient.

If you are wondering if there is proposed fracking near you look here, scroll the map out to define it
http://frack-off.org.uk/locations/
 
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There are loads of anti fracking groups on fb some of which Ive joined, the government is no longer going to subsidise renewables and seem hell bent on pushing fracking which anyone with an ounce of common sense can see its madness. They are being subsidised by the government too.
 
Define massive? I'll bet they can't actually get at more than a fraction of what they think is there, and I'll bet it wouldn't even supply one day of world consumption. The figures they announce are the total that 'might' be there, bear no relationship to what can economically or technologically be extracted, and are designed primarily to bump up the share price of the company planning to extract it.
 
As always, follow the money, there is obviously more to be made by the big corprations from fossil fuel (not yorkshire coal, obviously) than from renewables.
 
the companies who do fracking don't even disclose what liquid the pump down in our dear earth. This also causes mini earth quakes and the quality of drinking water goes down in drain.
 
ycbm said:
Define massive? I'll bet they can't actually get at more than a fraction of what they think is there, and I'll bet it wouldn't even supply one day of world consumption. The figures they announce are the total that 'might' be there, bear no relationship to what can economically or technologically be extracted, and are designed primarily to bump up the share price of the company planning to extract it.
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UK Oil & Gas Investments (UKOG) has stated its analysis of the Horse Hill well suggests the local area could hold 158 million barrels of oil per square mile.

But only a fraction of the 100 billion total would be recovered, the firm admits.

MASSIVE enough for you?
 
cremedemonthe said:
UK Oil & Gas Investments (UKOG) has stated its analysis of the Horse Hill well suggests the local area could hold 158 million barrels of oil per square mile.

But only a fraction of the 100 billion total would be recovered, the firm admits.

MASSIVE enough for you?
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Total recoverable oil would be a few weeks world supply then, at well over 80 million barrels a day. In the scale of things, no, not massive at all, we need as a planet to learn to live without it.

You also need to question who is saying that much is even there, and what the financial benefit to them is to have people believe that there is that much there. You also need to look at America where fracking wells are drying up years earlier than expected, requiring new wells to be drilled and completely destroying the economic proposition of running frack operations at all at the current time.
 
ycbm said:
Total recoverable oil would be a few weeks world supply then, at well over 80 million barrels a day. In the scale of things, no, not massive at all, we need as a planet to learn to live without it.

You also need to question who is saying that much is even there, and what the financial benefit to them is to have people believe that there is that much there. You also need to look at America where fracking wells are drying up years earlier than expected, requiring new wells to be drilled and completely destroying the economic proposition of running frack operations at all at the current time.
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Massive for Surrey though not talking about the world here are we!
There are plenty of horse owners in Surrey, Sussex and Kent who don't want to find out when it's too late if fracking affects their horses, what ever the amount is in there.
 
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