France bans the veil

I could understand why they would do it in schools, as all the other kids have to wear uniform, but to ban them in public :confused: Surely people can wear what they want on the street? That's like banning hats, really wierd and controlling...
 
Ninfapaola said:
Motorcyclists have to remove their helmets when entering banks etc. veils should be no different - religion or no religion.
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i cant see how they could ben them in the streets but going into banks and even shops etc i understand, there are loads of pubs around here your not aloud to wear hoods/hats etc, anything covering your face..
 
Levade said:
I could understand why they would do it in schools, as all the other kids have to wear uniform, but to ban them in public :confused: Surely people can wear what they want on the street? That's like banning hats, really wierd and controlling...
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In an Islamic country you would be arrested for wearing a bikini yet not here? When in Rome.....
 
If they want to wear them do in thier own country like people said cant wear crash helmet in shop banks so why should they wear there veils
 
Yes equality, muslim women should be walking around with their faces uncovered the same as non muslim women. A burka/veil is not a requirement of being a muslim,the koran says they just have to dress modestly.
 
JosieB said:
Yes equality, muslim women should be walking around with their faces uncovered the same as non muslim women. A burka/veil is not a requirement of being a muslim,the koran says they just have to dress modestly.
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But can't you see that by forcing them to walk around uncovered that REMOVES the equality? By letting all women wear veils (though obviously only some will choose to do this) that gives everyone equality- ie the choice to be covered or uncovered.
Forgive me for being simplistic, but to say 'equality' can be acheived by forcing people not to wear the veil (whether the koran dictates they have to or not) just really does not seem right to me. :confused:
 
Cash said:
But can't you see that by forcing them to walk around uncovered that REMOVES the equality? By letting all women wear veils (though obviously only some will choose to do this) that gives everyone equality- ie the choice to be covered or uncovered.
Forgive me for being simplistic, but to say 'equality' can be acheived by forcing people not to wear the veil (whether the koran dictates they have to or not) just really does not seem right to me. :confused:
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I don't agree - at some point, a man decided to stretch the islamic principles and insist that women were covered. It is disconcerting, it is uncomfortable because you can't "read" that person's face and btw... what if you were deaf and needed to lip read? This is the 21st century, it is unbelievable that a woman should feel they have to completely cover their face in public in this manner. I am not "anti" islam at all and have a lot of muslim friends - who btw, do not wear this garment yet honour and live by their religion.
 
Sod the Muslim issue for a second.

If its cold, and I'm in Paris it's bloody ridiculous I can't wrap up well anymore...

Ignore the veil, ANY face covering banned?

It's utterly daft.
 
Ouch Alex :p

Well thnk about the boot being on the other foot, how about the women in airports who have been disciplined for wearing crucifix's yet Muslim women are allowed to wear such an obvious religious garment? I tink our government is too keen to avoid upsetting other groups living in this country and forgetting about the "natives".
 
Sanolly said:
....... I tink our government is too keen to avoid upsetting other groups living in this country and forgetting about the "natives".
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I agree. I'm all for tolerance, but when legislation is formed, which gives a clear preference to foreign nationals, with very little thought to the well being of our own, then it can't be right.

I think that Australia has the right idea. Foreign nationals are welcome there, providing that they bear in mind, that they live by the conditions which are in place to suit the resident population, their own nationals.

I still can't get my head around the fact, that when we are in predominantly muslim countries, then those who offend their beliefs and principles, are booted out. Here, we seem to change any of our laws and established ethics, to suit just about anyone. :confused:

Alec.
 
Sanolly said:
Ouch Alex :p

Well thnk about the boot being on the other foot, how about the women in airports who have been disciplined for wearing crucifix's yet Muslim women are allowed to wear such an obvious religious garment? I tink our government is too keen to avoid upsetting other groups living in this country and forgetting about the "natives".
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Oh dont worry Im sure our in a few years Muslim rulers will be kind and mercyfull to us Kufers and Christain
ifidels....
 
Tinkerbee said:
Sod the Muslim issue for a second.

If its cold, and I'm in Paris it's bloody ridiculous I can't wrap up well anymore...

Ignore the veil, ANY face covering banned?

It's utterly daft.
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Yep, you'll have to leave your balaclava at home :D

This law has been considered here aswell. I can't believe all the time and money that get's wasted on this drivel. How many people actually wander about with their faces covered and why on earth is anyone so bothered?

There are far worse sights out there, especially during the summer months :p
 
Alec Swan said:
I agree. I'm all for tolerance, but when legislation is formed, which gives a clear preference to foreign nationals, with very little thought to the well being of our own, then it can't be right.

I think that Australia has the right idea. Foreign nationals are welcome there, providing that they bear in mind, that they live by the conditions which are in place to suit the resident population, their own nationals.

I still can't get my head around the fact, that when we are in predominantly muslim countries, then those who offend their beliefs and principles, are booted out. Here, we seem to change any of our laws and established ethics, to suit just about anyone. :confused:

Alec.
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Hmm. I wouldn't have used Australia as a good example of how to treat indigenous people... :rolleyes:

What makes one wave of immigrants superior to another?
 
Saucisson said:
Yep, you'll have to leave your balaclava at home :D

This law has been considered here aswell. I can't believe all the time and money that get's wasted on this drivel. How many people actually wander about with their faces covered and why on earth is anyone so bothered?

There are far worse sights out there, especially during the summer months :p
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No more French bank robbing for me. :(

To be honest I think we should make it compulsory here during the summer. Think of the savings in eye bleach.. :D
 
Well whilst we are on the subject.. could someone also ban teenage boys waddling around with their trousers hanging below their bottoms.
 
Alec Swan said:
I agree. I'm all for tolerance, but when legislation is formed, which gives a clear preference to foreign nationals, with very little thought to the well being of our own, then it can't be right.

I think that Australia has the right idea. Foreign nationals are welcome there, providing that they bear in mind, that they live by the conditions which are in place to suit the resident population, their own nationals.

I still can't get my head around the fact, that when we are in predominantly muslim countries, then those who offend their beliefs and principles, are booted out. Here, we seem to change any of our laws and established ethics, to suit just about anyone. :confused:

Alec.
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I heard (from an Ozzie friend), that when Australia were celebrating Australia day - a day to celebrate the landing of the colonialists, the aboriginal people boarded a plane to France and sailed across the coast to an English beach and planted a flag declaring it new land for Australian Aboriginals.
 
Alec Swan said:
I agree. I'm all for tolerance, but when legislation is formed, which gives a clear preference to foreign nationals, with very little thought to the well being of our own, then it can't be right.

I think that Australia has the right idea. Foreign nationals are welcome there, providing that they bear in mind, that they live by the conditions which are in place to suit the resident population, their own nationals.

I still can't get my head around the fact, that when we are in predominantly muslim countries, then those who offend their beliefs and principles, are booted out. Here, we seem to change any of our laws and established ethics, to suit just about anyone. :confused:

Alec.
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I don't always agree with Alec's comments, but on this occasion, I agree wholeheartedly. Well said, Alec
 
I'm willing to bet at good odds that there will be a good number of white french girls wafting up various aisles wearing a veil all in the name of tradition.

It wasn't so long ago in Britain that all men and women wore a hat - if fact the women rarely took them off! Go back a bit further and some working class women covered their heads in a shawl which doesn't look that much different to a burka to me - no one mentioned ( shock, horror, ) Womens Rights or the loss of them.
 
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