Freedom of Information request to Olympic Delivery Authority

Mithras said:
Or maybe some people's contribution to society is greater than partipation on an internet forum?
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Again, another arrogant assumption. What on earth could you possibly know about anyone's contribution to society (or anything else) from reading a largely anonymous forum? Clearly, you really do believe your self to be something a bit special and far more advanced than ther rest of the mere peons on this site.
 
The link is to an in depth paper on the transportation systems that were put in place for the 1996 Olympics, which does not support your point of view garnered from "news" outlets.
 
badattitude said:
Again, another arrogant assumption. What on earth could you possibly know about anyone's contribution to society (or anything else) from reading a largely anonymous forum? Clearly, you really do believe your self to be something a bit special and far more advanced than ther rest of the mere peons on this site.
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Hey,less of the personal attacks. I may not always agree with Mithras, but she does give a good measured argument that is worth reading.

Reducing this debate to a slanging match is rather tedious which is a shame because its been quite interesting and informative.
 
horserider said:
Hey,less of the personal attacks. I may not always agree with Mithras, but she does give a good measured argument that is worth reading.

Reducing this debate to a slanging match is rather tedious which is a shame because its been quite interesting and informative.
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Horserider, you are directing your comment at the wrong person. I am entitled (as is anyone) to defend themselves against unfounded accusation and sweeping generalisation. Regardless of her arguments, Mithras clearly thinks she is a step above most members of this forum which is probably why she chose her psuedonym (sp). And Equibrit, Lord Coe himself used the Atlanta Games as an example of how not to do it on a public BBC debate. I hardly think it is in his interests to scaremonger. Which bit of those Games did you help at? Because I travelled to the city for non-equestrian events with my partner of the time (who was part of the corporate sponsorship) and I have to say the City was at a standstill. Even with our VIP passes, getting about took hours. The equestrian seemed to work well in comparisson but was a fair way outside the city limits.
 
Equibrit said:
The link is to an in depth paper on the transportation systems that were put in place for the 1996 Olympics, which does not support your point of view garnered from "news" outlets.
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In fact Equibrit, reading the paper, as will be seen from the abstract in your link, this paper does seem to support the fact that there were transport issues, overcome subsequently. It is also written by an American whose opinion would hardly be unbiased, and does not give a timeframe for when many of the solutions mentioned were put into effect. It seems much of what was done was in response to problems encountered once the Games had begun, and not in anticipation before their commencement. But perhaps my English is not yet good enough to understand the documant correctly.
 
badattitude said:
Horserider, you are directing your comment at the wrong person. I am entitled (as is anyone) to defend themselves against unfounded accusation and sweeping generalisation. Regardless of her arguments, Mithras clearly thinks she is a step above most members of this forum which is probably why she chose her psuedonym (sp). And Equibrit, Lord Coe himself used the Atlanta Games as an example of how not to do it on a public BBC debate. I hardly think it is in his interests to scaremonger. Which bit of those Games did you help at? Because I travelled to the city for non-equestrian events with my partner of the time (who was part of the corporate sponsorship) and I have to say the City was at a standstill. Even with our VIP passes, getting about took hours. The equestrian seemed to work well in comparisson but was a fair way outside the city limits.
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You still seem to be determined to throw in personal attacks, but FWIW, I thought Mithras was neat connection to her job.

No, I didn't help at the Atlanta games, so maybe I should have no opinion on any aspect of this years event. However, apart from having VIP passes and still being inconvenienced, you don't mention your contribution to the smooth running of the Games but I may well have missed where you stated how you were involved ?
 
horserider said:
You still seem to be determined to throw in personal attacks, but FWIW, I thought Mithras was neat connection to her job.

No, I didn't help at the Atlanta games, so maybe I should have no opinion on any aspect of this years event. However, apart from having VIP passes and still being inconvenienced, you don't mention your contribution to the smooth running of the Games but I may well have missed where you stated how you were involved ?
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Horserider perhaps you should read the entire thread before highlighting a comment or two that taken out of context might support your argument. You clearly missed the comment that prompted my response, I suggest you look more carefully. And if you read other threads on this subject you will see that this is not the first time Mithras has made an unfounded accusation/assumtion and made a derisory comment about myself and forum users in general. You are obviously having some trouble reading posts because I am hardly still being inconvenienced by the Atlanta Games. And it a little more than inconvenience for the thousands of people who spent hours in the heat and humidity squashed on the overcrowed and insufficient transport system. And yes, you have missed my involvement in Altlanta, clearly stated above. My husband at the time was a chief exec for one of the sponsoring companies and consequently he got passes for many events. I have not claimed any part of the smooth running or otherwise of any Games so please get your facts right. But I was there and can therefore completely back up Cefyl's contention that the transport system was a shambles as I was there. Further, if you actually read the paper in equibrits link, it says the same itself. The paper seems to be more assessing how the system was after the Games rather than during.
 
I always thought Mithras was the metal used to make Frodo's chainmail... but thats Mithril isn't it :( :(

I'm wondering why Ms Nimby-Pants doesn't just go buy an island somewhere. She obviously isn't a fan of local businesses, nor any other park users... She believes all terrorists ever are going to blow up the park despite much higher profile venues being in existance (and seems to have ignored the fact that horses get blown up in london olympics or no...) and more so she seems to think bossing everyone around will eventually get her her own way...

This sort of squabbling is why I have no interest in the olympics at all.
 
My comment: "Or maybe some people's contribution to society is greater than partipation on an internet forum?"

badattitude said:
Again, another arrogant assumption. What on earth could you possibly know about anyone's contribution to society (or anything else) from reading a largely anonymous forum? Clearly, you really do believe your self to be something a bit special and far more advanced than ther rest of the mere peons on this site.
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Ironically, my comment was about how people such as Ms Mawhood and others have no appreciation for the effort Olympic athletes, volunteers, etc put in, or their exquisite talents and expertise. They only think about themselves and their own immediate needs. There is no concept of (metaphorical) sacrifice for the greater good. The irony is that the poster above has assumed that I was talking about myself rather than the Olympic competitors, which illustrates for me the inability of the supporters of this "cause" to see any greater interest than the selfish self-interest.

Incidentally, the cult of Mithras is male, but I named myself after it after a visit to Hadrian's Wall and finding that my preferred choice (and former university societet), Minerva, was taken.

I do find posters rather feeble attempts at being abusive online terribly boring, and tend to switch off. However I can assure you that they would most certainly not get away with such in real life!
 
I wonder if the fact that this thread is still going on is because of the deep irritation that comes out of powerlessness that is felt by those against the choice of Greenwich? In which case, again it comes down to doing something effective about it if you are that irritated, or getting over it and moving on. Writing to princesses and posting on internet forums isn't likely to change an Olympic Games venue at the 11th hour, and the only correct procedure is judicial review of the decision making process, of which we have heard on here remarakably little (other than a vague assurance in response to my asking the OP repeatedly if she had considered it) that it was apparantly going ahead.

You would therefore expect at this stage a concentrated effort rather than piecemeal sniping on an internet forum. Unless, as I suspect, it is easy to be a cybernaut and attack online but do little in real life.

I do also wonder about how well such people fit into society. Life in a democracy in a crowded country is full of the need to accept decisions relating to our environment that we would not choose ourselves. I don't like the fact that a hotel and housing estate have been built next door to me but I am able to get over it, and if it bothers me that much, I will simply sell up and move elsewhere. Likewise, as I have often said, the people of Edinburgh live with the disruption of the Edinburgh festival for a month every single year. Presumably they, and I, recognise that neither Edinburgh, nor the countryside surrounding my home belong to us. Greenwich is a public park, for goodness sake. We are not talking about compulsary purchase or even long term loss of amenity.
 
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