Friesian 'Fight Club'

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Ok, this sounds awful from the title, but it's actually not. I meant the movie 'Fight Club'!

I fell in love with Friesians a few years ago after riding almost all of my life, and recently decided to really move towards saving for my own horse, naturally I'm reaching for the stars by aiming for a Friesian. I've been trying to do a l lot of research on the breed and most things I found quite easily but the PRICE! I don't know whether it's in the contracts that no one is to speak of the price they paid for their Frieisan or if it's a Fight Club situation where "rule one, do not talk about what your horse cost, Rule two, DO NOT TALK ABOUT WHAT YOUR HORSE COST!" But I have not been having much luck finding any up to date outlines on what costs may be.

I know I could possibly contact the sellers but because at the moment I'm not willing to make any moves and am probably WAY under the price they would ask for anyway I don't feel comfortable contacting them just to be seen as a time waster.

I know they can vary in price so its kind of a 'how long is the string situation' but I'd be looking for a gelding, purebred if possible, I've been looking at some places in holland, window shopping so I wouldn't mind importing.. can be on the younger side but broken to saddle and moderately reliable (that is to say, not going to climb the walls or become a bronco when we go hacking or to a comp).

If it is a 'never to be spoken' topic, any suggestions on how I might be able to get an up to date estimate cost found it would be HUGELY appreciated! :)
 
Take a look at the Friesians Scotland website they breed them and they often have some for sale on their website .
They are real enthusiasts for the breed well worth ringing .
As for price like any breed you will find examples at £2000 and at 200,000 usually for good reasons .
You will need to work out how much you need to pay for a good example of the breed trained to the level you require.
 
OK you can ask me :)

I'm happy to tell you how much I paid for mine and also how much it cost for me to breed my own (cheaper than buying a good one) but I'd rather do that via pm if you don't mind.

As for knowing how 'fair' an asking price is then it can vary based on breeding and what type of papers the horse has - if it has graded as Ster it will be 'worth' more but not necessarily a better animal than one without papers or only registered in the secondary stud book.

It's all very complicated and a bit of a minefield but I'm happy to answer as many questions as I can. There are also a couple of people that I can put you in touch with in Holland who I know won't up the price just because you are from the UK :)
 
A friend paid 3k for a 2yr old and managed to get him gelded and delivered includes in that price but think that's because she has unrivalled bargaining skills and the breeder was selling up and retiring
 
This is an advert wide problem that really burns my beans! POA, POA!!!! For gods sake put a price on it so you don't get people calling up, hoping they may be able to afford the horse only to find they'd need to remortgage to buy it! It also puts off genuine buyers who may actually be able to afford the horse, its a good fit for them, but are terrified of the price as the advert states POA!!!

Rant Over, Its been a bad week!
 
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This is an advert wide problem that really burns my beans! POA, POA!!!! For gods sake put a price on it so you don't get people calling up, hoping they may be able to afford the horse only to find they'd need to remortgage to buy it! It also puts off genuine buyers who may actually be able to afford the horse, its a good fit for them, but are terrified of the price as the advert states POA!!!

Rant Over, Its been a bad week!
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totally agree! 'email for price' is another one. GENERALLY when you need to e-mail them for a price it's already not a good sign when it comes to 'affordable' >.<
 
Damnation said:
This is an advert wide problem that really burns my beans! POA, POA!!!! For gods sake put a price on it so you don't get people calling up, hoping they may be able to afford the horse only to find they'd need to remortgage to buy it! It also puts off genuine buyers who may actually be able to afford the horse, its a good fit for them, but are terrified of the price as the advert states POA!!!

Rant Over, Its been a bad week!
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I agree, I just don't know why people feel the need to do this or what they hope to gain from it. I mean, I'm not going to phone up and waste my time having a half hour conversation about the horse and what I'm looking for only to find out I can't afford it. I'd phone up and the first question would be "what's the price?" and I wouldn't want to proceed until that was answered.

I had no idea the freisian world was so secretive OP, it must be incredibly frustrating for you.
 
RideSide said:
totally agree! 'email for price' is another one. GENERALLY when you need to e-mail them for a price it's already not a good sign when it comes to 'affordable' >.<
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But you see, some horses on POA are not that expensive and could be within budget for the lucky people who do have a more generous amount to spend. What is wrong with just putting a price on it?

Also OP - I don't envy you in this quest, when I was horse hunting over 5 years ago I was looking at a Friesan as a desirable breed. Every single person who I called about their Friesian didn't answer the phone, didn't call me back. I bought a Dutch Warmblood instead!
 
Lol at thread title.

I bought a very well bred 9 year old gelding from friesians Scotland. Kfps registered, received a premie at grading. 16hh baroque type with dressage bloodlines. Extremely handsome ;) then all the usual with no vices, hacks alone, easy to load clip etc etc. sailed through 5 stage vetting. I can pm you what I paid if you like. I feel so lucky to have him, he is my one in a million horse :)

Join some of the Facebook groups, friesians for sale etc and read into what people are asking :)

Look out for kfps registered, enquire if they got graded. Sellers should have a pretty card with bloodlines on it, Google the horses on it.

Of course for some it is not all about the breeding, however you leave yourself open to potentially buying something that is not true to type. I know a couple of us registered friesians, some are lovely horses and there is no reason why they wouldn't be accepted into the stud book, others are a bit different.

As with any breed there are some very poor examples around, and some outstanding ones. Have a look at importing one too if you can't find one here you like.
 
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This is an advert wide problem that really burns my beans! POA, POA!!!! For gods sake put a price on it so you don't get people calling up, hoping they may be able to afford the horse only to find they'd need to remortgage to buy it! It also puts off genuine buyers who may actually be able to afford the horse, its a good fit for them, but are terrified of the price as the advert states POA!!!

Rant Over, Its been a bad week!
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This.

I can't understand why vendors slap 'POA' on their ads then complain about "time wasters." What is the secrecy regarding price in aid of? If they put an actual price on their ads then they would find they'd get less "time wasters."

I'm more than prepared to pay what the vendor is asking if the horse has decent breeding, conformation, is a good fit etc., but I scroll passed ads with 'POA' on them. I think it's unnecessary and pretentious, tbh.

As an aside; the title of this thread is awesome.
 
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