Frozen drive ways !!!

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I sure other people are suffering from this !!! I am at a livery yard were the yard owner refuses to put down grit, we have to walk the horses on a byway/bridle way to turn them out it is like a sheet of ice
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who will be liable? Im sure he is supposed to ensure that the public are safe and as a paying customer he should be doing it!! I would be interested on what others are experiencing. Over the next couple of days im sure it will get worse and we will be slipping and sliding all over the place. Just feels me with dread that someone will get hurt be that one of the horses or the handler
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It is quite simple - DIY = Do It Yourself. You are renting a space, be that a stable or a field. We, as a yard, have clubbed together and bought grit to ensure that we can move our horses around safely. Our YO does not have to ensure this happens, as it is not detrimental to the horses if they stay in, etc.

Brits need to stop looking for blame and be proactive IMO!

BTW, I think emptying a grit box for your own use (i.e. not for the road) is illegal!
 
We have lovely yard owners who have cleared the yard with the tractor and put grit down regularly so we and the horses are safe and can be turned out - I am so lucky.
 
I hear what you are saying... but why should i put my hand in my pocket when i pay a considrable amount of money to keep them there the more i do the less the YO does.... I think you will find it is no illegal to take the salt if you are a resident of that area!!!!!
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I am on a small 6 box DIY yard i have 2 stables, friend has 2 stables, and YO has 2 stables. YO has salt hiding in the boot of his car and waits for us to leave then puts it outside his stable only. I did buy my own but felt petty just doing my bit.
 
Grit in council grit bins is council property and is intended for use on the public roads where the bin is. Removing it for use on private property is theft! There has been a spate of this and people should be ashamed of themselves, they could cause an accident.

Anyway the yard where I ride has gritted a path between the stables and the indoor and other busy areas. The drive has been cleared once. They said that next year they plan to buy more grit and use the fertilizer spreader on the tractor to grit the whole yard, the drive, the outdoor school and the car park.

If you are worried about it and are there every day yourself I'd grit it or sweep it yourself. You could get the other liveries to help out too.
 
If it's that dangerous leave the horses in! or club together and purchase some grit with the other liveries(if yout Y.O won't pay) and have a "gritting party"!! , by the time you've managed to find some, it will probably have thawed out anyway!! -
 
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It is quite simple - DIY = Do It Yourself. You are renting a space, be that a stable or a field. We, as a yard, have clubbed together and bought grit to ensure that we can move our horses around safely. Our YO does not have to ensure this happens, as it is not detrimental to the horses if they stay in, etc.

Brits need to stop looking for blame and be proactive IMO!

BTW, I think emptying a grit box for your own use (i.e. not for the road) is illegal!

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I'll have to disagree with you there Weezy on part of your post
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Horse staying is detrimental .....Mine is unfortunately
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...Shes dropped weight, is stressing and finally went clean bonkers this morning when I eventually got her out she jumped the arena fence breaking the top railing which is well over 5ft
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I have been the only one on our yard to do anything about the ice and its really p1ssed me off . We are having to bring our own water out also
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This bloody weather is really getting to me .
 
I hear you Colleen, but what I meant was it isn't the same as not having running water, e.g. the horse won't die if left in. Mine cannot stay in sanely either BTW, he is a headcase, hence why we have all ensured that we clear, sweep, grit, etc so we can feel safe
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A livery yard is a business and would have similar responsibilities to any other business which members of the public have access to.

Therefore the yard owner is resposible for anyone using or entering the premises The yard owner should ensure that they have third party public liability cover in the event of anyone being injured on the yard.
It is the responsibility of the livery yard owner to ensure that the yard is safe for both humans and horses and therefore where possible kept clear of ice and snow. If they fail to do this and someone injures themselves or there horse then the yard owner makes themselves open to a claim.
Therefore as a yard owner it would be sensible to take sensible precautions to avoid an accident from occuring on their premises. This would include clearing snow and ice to form a sufficiently wide pathway and if this is not possible at least putting down grit.

Inview of the recent ice and snow conditions it would be sensible for a yard owner to ensure that they include a Health and Safety assesment on ice and snow conditions within their health and safety manuals so that if there is an accident which ends up being reported to the Health and Safety executive that they can demonstrate that they have taken every precaution to avoid what and demonstrate what steps they take.
 
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