Full livery - a question....

[Shilasdair]

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TBH I have no idea why the horse has so much feed - it is a cob type,


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I think you'll find this horse is known as a 'Warmblood' and I was firmly corrected when I suggested it had some Shire blood in there....as it looked not dissimilar to a horse I know....
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S - that horse is no more a b****y Warmblood than I am a size zero

God knows what it is mind you, I always call it a cob but I am really not sure. I think your idea of a Shire x might be the nearest to the mark

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Shhhh! It's a warmblood I tell you - hairy feathers and all! It reminds you of my Shire x TB girlie (after immersion in Veet) too, then?
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[Acolyte]

Did the owner tell you it was a warmblood?

I mean c'mon, Josh was a warmblood - and having ridden both Josh and this horse a few times

it is like comparing a Citroen 2CV with a Ferrari

BTW before you say it - JOSH WAS THE FERRARI

 

[Shilasdair]

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Did the owner tell you it was a warmblood?

I mean c'mon, Josh was a warmblood - and having ridden both Josh and this horse a few times

it is like comparing a Citroen 2CV with a Ferrari

BTW before you say it - JOSH WAS THE FERRARI

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The YO told me, in no uncertain terms.
Owning land makes you an expert, despite original careers in other areas (you must know that).
I thought Josh was a SF...not really a 'Warmblood', more of a hotblood....?
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[Acolyte]

Oh well that explains it - YO having head up her own a**e and all

I didnt think it sounded like the owner, she isnt so pretentious

I always thought SF were warmbloods? But if you prefer hotbloods that is fine with me - he was just fab as you know

 

[Shilasdair]

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Oh well that explains it - YO having head up her own a**e and all

I didnt think it sounded like the owner, she isnt so pretentious

I always thought SF were warmbloods? But if you prefer hotbloods that is fine with me - he was just fab as you know

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Technically, I suppose pretty much anything between draught/native (coldblood) and TB/Arab (hotblood) should be a warmblood....
Josh was fab - any idea how he's doing now?
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[FRESHMAN]

I look at it as a hotel. If breakfast lunch or dinner is within certain times & that doesnt suit the owner or rider then fine move on or do it yourself. My main bug bear on this type of post is simply this. How many times do we read on H&HO alone that the horse industry does not pay decent wages to keep good staff? When you find the answer to this question you will know exactly where I am coming from! £80 a week, & people expect a service to fit around the individual. In a livery yard it is near impossible to cater for everyone's personal 'needs' without having a shift system from 6am to 8 or 9pm 7 days a week. think about holidays sick leave etc & the sum just does not add up. The job will not get better until horse owners see the light & put there hand in there pocket or do some of it themself.

 

[Acolyte]

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I look at it as a hotel. If breakfast lunch or dinner is within certain times & that doesnt suit the owner or rider then fine move on or do it yourself. My main bug bear on this type of post is simply this. How many times do we read on H&HO alone that the horse industry does not pay decent wages to keep good staff? When you find the answer to this question you will know exactly where I am coming from! £80 a week, & people expect a service to fit around the individual. In a livery yard it is near impossible to cater for everyone's personal 'needs' without having a shift system from 6am to 8 or 9pm 7 days a week. think about holidays sick leave etc & the sum just does not add up. The job will not get better until horse owners see the light & put there hand in there pocket or do some of it themself.

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Freshman I understand the point you are making in this post, however I repeat that I do not believe it is unreasonable for me to ask the YO to feed the horse at 4pm every day so I can ride it when I have finished work (I too work full time)

Once I received peoples explanations about out-of-hours work I understand completely that the YO should not be required to wash off/rug up/turn out the horse after I have ridden (which can be anything up to 8pm by the time I have finished) but the work I am therefore asking the YO to do falls well within normal working hours

 

[Fruddy]

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Usually on full livery the yard staff finish working full time by 5pm as they will have started around 7am. At our yard the staff change rugs, feed, water etc up until 10pm, but this is fairly unusual on a normal full livery service. Anything that happens after 5pm is usually up to the owner/rider of the horse to sort out.

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Absolutely agree. I am a full livery and all the staff on my yard leave after the feeds and nets are put in at 5pm. Any jobs that need doing after that are down to me, even as a full livery.

You cannot seriously expect a member of staff to come back to the yard to put the horse out at say 8:00 pm at night??

 

[Fruddy]

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Are yard owners supposed to be on call 24/7? Think about it. Some people want to be on the yard before 6am others up till 9 or 10pm. Sounds a bit harsh to me

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As I've said above somewhere, I can definitely see your point here - but then why can the YO not feed the horse at 4pm, problem solved

She refused to do that!

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Maybe because if she were to feed one horse at 4pm, all the others would be going crazy, kicking doors and wanting their tea as well!

Why dont you get to the yard a little earlier, if you can, so that you have time to let the horse finish his tea before going back out?