fulmer / single jointed snaffles -also in CR

[Zuzan]

I want to try my horse in a single jointed fulmer.. so have bought this..

Looking at it I can see that one half of the mouth piece is longer than the other.. does this mean the bit will act lopsidedly on the mouth..?

 

[Ranyhyn]

I dont *think* it looks longer. Looks like a bit of an optical illusion due to the link? If you measure the actual length between the link and the cheek, they are the same..

Arent they shakes head I need a lie down!!

 

[Zuzan]

am not sure either now.. but looking at the lines on the page... the arm on the LHS of the picture is 7 lines from the kink after the bulb jointy bit to the vertical cheek and the one on the RHS of the picture is nine lines.. ????

 

[Ranyhyn]

Its 8 by my reckoning (rhs) But if you pulled it over it'd be 7 3/4 on each side

I don't think you can measure it using ruled paper, maybe try a tape?

 

[Zuzan]

Arms are definately different lengths

wierdly if I hold it at the pivot point it is symmetrical... does my head in this kind of thing... am going to have to have a dble whisky now..

 

[Indigo Moose]

As long as when you bend the bit the sides are equal lengths, then how they look straight is irrelevent.

 

[millitiger]

it is a very common and well know problem in single jointed bits that they can be lopsided- whether it affects the horse adversely on not, I don't know as I don't use single jointed bits.

 

[kerilli]

pick it up by the joint and see if the sides hang perfectly level. with cheap bits, they tend not to - one side is longer and thinner, the other is shorter and fatter. expensive bits - they tend to be a lot more symmetrical.
this is why i won't use cheap bits, esp single-joint ones...

 

[Ranyhyn]

I haven't bought a budget or single jointed bit since about 2 years ago, not because I worked out myself they weren't very nice )) but because of the advice I picked up here.

Now I only use NS, with the help of Gail from horsebithire.com in helping choose the bit. I have to bow to someone more experienced cause I haven't got a real clue myself, hence my confusion above

 

[Ashgrove]

pick it up by the joint and see if the sides hang perfectly level. with cheap bits, they tend not to - one side is longer and thinner, the other is shorter and fatter. expensive bits - they tend to be a lot more symmetrical.

This.

 

[soloequestrian]

I'd never even thought about that before.....
Balance International do a lovely fulmer snaffle - it's modelled on a very old design, and made so that the middle joint is actually the same size as the thin end of the mouthpiece (if that makes sense) - the joint doesn't stick out in the middle of the bit. My horse loves it - he used to be quite fussy in his mouth, but with this bit he is quiet and salivates nicely. It's not a cheap option by any means (around £80), but I think that compares with things like Myler, NS etc.

 

[Tnavas]

The bit is symetrical - the length from the cheeks to the point the bits link is exactly the same.

The asymetrical part is the joint itself, one is vertical & the other horizontal.

Fulmers are great bits - I break all mine in them and re train the TB's off the track in them. They are such quiet bits the horse soon gets confident in the contact.

 

[Zuzan]

I wish NS did Fulmers.. proper ones like the Korsteel..

NB If held at the joint the arms are equal.... and yes I can now see what you mean about one of the joint rings be horizontal and one vertical..

Neets is I think not happy in a double jointed.. apparently the dble jointed bits can put quite a lot of pressure on the bars at their most sensitive / narrowest point.. hence the purchase of above cheapo Fulmer...

The one in the picture is Korsteel cheapy.. which makes me a bit nervous I have to say as we have been using lovely NS bits prior to this..


I'll check out the Balance Int one.... is there a website for them..? found it great thanks...