Fuming about yard some advice please

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I need some advice please before i end up killing someone on yard because its just getting ridiculous up there now.

Its been going on for a while the YO is seriously ill and her OH is running the place but he doesn't even bother getting out his car all day. Problem is with him, his grandkids and old friends running the yard the place has gone to pot. I feel like i need to say something to him now but not sure what best to say. He has a friend who has her own yard who is a complete back stabber and comes on the yard and tries to get everyone to move to her yard yet the man doesn't realise what she is doing.

I know it's a DIY yard but i always thought that it was still the YO responsibility to make sure everything was running fine and that no repairs were needed doing on yard and if they did need doing then it would be them who would do them, Obviously not on this yard! The gutter was in need of repairing and was flooding half the stables and the man didn't bother doing it himself but nagged someone else who had horse on yard to do it for him.

Few weeks ago one the horses had gone mental in field when left in there alone and had charged at the fencing and it had all broken meaning that the smaller and younger horses were mixed in with the massive horses. He sent someone to fix the field who didn't do a good job at all and within the next day the horses were all back in together again. Buddy ended up being kicked on his back leg on the knee joint leading to him going lame and still recovering 2 weeks later and big vet bills for me.

Now the thing which has really made me loose it with the yard is the fact that some idiot yesterday decided to turn out a 16hh TB into the small field who basically dominates all the horses in the bigger field. As a result the foals have ended up being attacked. Daisy has hundreds of bites all over her and a very stiff leg though do believe that is a result of the bites am keeping close eye on her and if she gets any worse today the vet is coming out. And my friends foal was also attacked and had a very lucky escape from nearly snapping his neck. As the gate into field has a whole in it so they can get their heads through and eat grass on other side of it which was what he was doing until the TB decided to charge at him and Zak panicked and couldn't get his head out, luckily he got out, was a few second lucky escape. Scared the hell out of me though thought my friend was going to be coming home to a dead foal. He seems ok though, his neck was very warm last night but there was no heat this morning and his bites aren't too bad.

Can someone tells me what i should do? I have 2 mares in foal for spring and have been advised by vet not to move them again until they have had their foals as they have already have traveled one long journey, But i really don't think things going to work at this yard. I would speak to the man but i don't feel like doing so as he isn't the kindest of men at the moment as we had quite a argument few weeks back when Buddy had got hurt and was kicking out because was sore when was treating him and the man said i should smack him in the ribs because he was walking all over me. When i told him he had hurt his leg he just said hes fine, he soon shut up when the vet came.

I haven't a clue what i can do but i really feel like if i have to get a vet out then i feel like i should sue the yard surely they should have some liability for the damage the horses have had? Any suggestions, i think if someone was to come and inspect the yard then it would end up being shut down. I feel like something should be done though as it is past a joke. Any ideas?
 
I would think seriously about moving. the mares should cope if the move isn't too far and well managed. The friend might be a backstabber to your yo, but is her yard well managed & safe?
 
i would move asap.
as for moving the mares, my filly's dam was shipped over from holland a few months away from foaling and she came to no harm.
i can see why you'd want to be cautious about the stress of travelling and a move, but staying on that yard sounds like it's even more of a stress for the poor horses
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Do you have a contract saying who it is down to when it comes to repairs?
Is the original YO really poorly, or do you think talking to them may help?
Maybe if you approach the YO with regards to the back stabbing, that may get him on side, before speaking to him about the other issues?

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I would think seriously about moving. the mares should cope if the move isn't too far and well managed. The friend might be a backstabber to your yo, but is her yard well managed & safe?

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I am looking to see whether they can go anywhere really close to where they are but don't want to be traveling too far.

The lady who has the other yard i don't trust at all. Were not really on speaking terms after i went mental at her for not looking after her kid when she let her 3 year old go off walking around the yard when i was treating Buddys leg and i had my brush box open and the kid grabbed my scissors and was heading for Buddys tail! Bad enough anyway her doing that but i had to have very sharp words about the fact she was looking to have a child left going near Buddys tail with how much pain he was in.

Never really looked at her yard because i really don't think we would get on at all, i think she was the one yesterday who turned the TB into the wrong field.
 
move them. in-foal mares are moved all the time (they're flown, for heaven's sake!), i'd ignore your vet and find somewhere safe. I would go BALLISTIC if someone put a mature, dangerous horse in with foals, that is absolutely ridiculous and it's very very lucky something didn't get killed. sounds as if it's very lucky your friend's foal didn't break its neck. if people at this yard have no horse sense, incidents will keep happening, and you can't be there 24/7 to protect your horses. i'd move them asap, and tell the guy why you're doing so. in light of the vets bills etc, i'd move them immediately if pos, and not give any warning... you don't want more injuries and bills!
 
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Do you have a contract saying who it is down to when it comes to repairs?
Is the original YO really poorly, or do you think talking to them may help?
Maybe if you approach the YO with regards to the back stabbing, that may get him on side, before speaking to him about the other issues?

Lippy x

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The YO has been diagnosed with liver cancer which seems to be spreading so she is in no fit state to come up yard. Her OH isn't in the best of health either and isn't in the most reasonable of moods. He thinks the world of the lady who has been back stabbing him as she helps him get the hay and everything in for the yard. She is always up the yard which i find really odd as she has her own yard to look after.

We had no contract or nothing when went to yard so not sure who it is down to for repairs. If i tell him something needs fixing he says ok will get onto it tomorrow, and a few weeks later it still isn't done.
 
I would try and move yards but make sure you tell the current YO or Husband why you are moving before you go! Either face to face or by a carefully worded letter!!
I'm sure the mares will be fine travelling so long as they are good travellers anyway!
 
move asap
situtation is stupid and horses and people could easily get hurt
tell them why you are going.
the mares will be fine, horses dont loose foals that easily once they are past 100days or even 40 days once the foal is implanted!
 
Move yards, no question..............

With regards to moving your in-foal mares, I flew 2 from Dubai to the UK, they were both fine and had beautiful babies.

Pregnant mares move all the time, if I was in your position, I would take the risk of moving the mares, against the risk of any more serious injuries to the existing stock you already have, any day. If your mares get chased around the field by a dominant horse, there could be a risk of them loosing their foals.
 
The mares are in a separate field about 5 minutes away from yard which i rent of YO,

My concerns is unless i can find fields and stables to rent there wont be many places i can move them. I have Buddy and Daisy stables, 2 mares and 2 foals in field, and 2 year old colt being delivered sunday.
 
Canceling the colt isn't something i really wish to do. I handed my cheque over for him the weekend so probably is cleared now as had already organised to have him collected. If unable to move the herd to different yard i think i might know someone who would have a field for them.
 
But surely you don't want to bring another horse - and a youngster at that - into that situation. Can't you phone them and discuss them keeping it for a month for you on a professional basis??
 
The field they are in doesn't have the danger which the yard itself has, We rent it of the man its 5 mins down the road from the yard. If the colt was to come down sunday he would not be in any danger though would have to be moved again when found somewhere else.
 
i would really consider moving asap there are some really well run yards and this sort of thing should never be happening it is the person in charges job to avoid any situations like you are having to put up with.
 
I have 2 mares and 2 foals in field down road for breeding purposes, the colt is having a section of the field there.

But i also brought a foal to be stabled like my other and my friend did the same. They are on yard and go out into the small and young horse field. They had been fine in there until someone decided to put the tb in.
 
Ah, ok. So I suppose most immediately you can move your mares and all of the youngstock in together until you find a solution at least.

Good luck - sounds a nightmare to have so many horses, and no where adequate to keep them.
 
OMG, sounds terrible and no doubt more accidents will happen, it's certainly not the enviroment to be keeping any younsters in or bringing other baby neddies in the world, get out and get out fast!
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I don't think suing them would be an option as horses will be horses and many DIY yards are in a poor state and not closed down.
I would be very upset if I were in your place and would move asap, or at least put all your horses in the field away from the yard so they'd be safe as AmyMay suggests.
 
Moving them altogether could be a option but not for few more weeks. Problem is i have Buddy on box rest at the moment and is only turned out into a sectioned of paddock for a hour or 2 a day. He was meant to be kept in with only 20 minutes exercise being lead around school but being only 3 he went loopy so vet thought having a small area for him to go into for a hour or 2 might do him more good.

Am also looking after my friends mare and foal until they come back, they have another week left away. The only thing i was thinking of maybe doing is waiting till their bites have healed and then maybe turn them out with Buddy in small paddock but would have to watch them first to make sure Buddy did them no harm though don't think he will.

Then maybe by then should hopefully have found somewhere i could move them to and me and my friend could work something out.
 
Sounds like a mess that you have little or no control over,it must be bad for the owner and her husband having health problems but if your not in a position to influence or change anything your better out of there...
 
Yeah it really is a big mess and i can only see one way out of it but i can't abandon my friends horses either.

I am going to snap tomorrow when see YO's OH because i have now found out from my mum who has been up the yard that the TB is still in the same field! Which means unless he is moved neither Buddy nor the foals can go back in the field nor my friends mare because she is only tiny and don't want him on the back on her. Its getting past a joke now!
 
This may sound harsh, but the only way that you can control the situation with that number of horses is to buy or rent your own yard. I would be lothe to try and found a stud on some-one elses livery yard. Over 20 years ago a woman on our yard had an angloarab standing at stud, she moved as she found that the visiting mares became a problem for the other liveries, she moved from west yorks to Shropshire. We bought our own place when we got up to having four horses, mutiple horses and knowing how you want to keep them is incompatible IMO with being on a livery yard. Hope you can find somewhere to rent or buy in the near future.
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Not harsh at all, we had been talking about buying or renting a yard its just waiting for something to come available at the right price. The plan had been to wait till spring and see what land can buy/rent with house for me and my BF to move into with stables and paddocks for the horses.

Will be looking now to see what land is available, especially if me and my friend can put money together to get somewhere.
 
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