Fuming! Why do people not listen?!

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I'm sorry this is a big rant because i don't want to take my anger out on the ones that are involved, i figured that here is much safer and no nasty consequences.

Anyway, there was a new gelding that has moved to the yard at the beggining of july this year, nice owner, nice horse, he got on with the herd and it was fine. Then i got my loan mare back in august, she knew everyone in the herd but the gelding. For the first month and a bit all seemed well, they all got along and it was fine. Then it started. The new gelding started mounting my mare as well as my friends little mare, the gelding is 16.2hh, my mare is 16hh and my friends mare is 14hh. So since then i started having problems with mare and schooling, she would chuck her head up, bend to the outside and 9 times out of 10 get the wrong canter lead, she was NEVER like this before so i knew something was wrong. Well i stopped riding in the school, just did a couple of hacks per week to keep her ticking over untill the mctimony could come out. She came out and poor mare had her pelvis, back and neck all out :( (she only had the mctimony out at the beggining of august for her 6month check up and there was nothing major, just a tiny tweek needed from her being a tit in the field) SO we have sorted out another field for the gelding to go in and have another boy for company so he wasn't alone. I have asked everyone on the yard if this will be ok (sorted it with YO and owner of said gelding before asking everyone else) and everyone agreed. The field that the boys are in is just over the fence so they can all still see eachother, just the gelding cant do any damage. The owner of the other gelding that is there for company brings her horse in at night now, which is fair enough, she has every right to do so. But we have discussed it with the owner of troublesome gelding and the owner said that its fine to leave him on his own in the seperate field (the others in the next field are still out at night so he's not all on his own). Now this is the part that im fuming about. Someone, i dont know who, insists on putting the gelding out with the rest of the herd which includes our mares, despite everything being sorted out before hand and everyone being happy about the arrangements, there is someone that seems to not have understood what was said and still keeps putting the troublesome gelding out with the mares everynight. :mad: :mad: i'm 17, doing A levels and working part time as well as having the horse, i work to be able to afford my horse, i pay for her from my own money, this is an additional cost that i did not need, i did a couple of extra shifts to get the money which is fine, but i am physically not able to do anymore if someone keeps putting that horse out with our mares, i cannot afford to pay out to have the mctimony out every month, and it wouldn't be good for the mare either. I'm just angry, who do people not listen??! :( :mad:
 
You really need to speak to your YO and she will have to talk to everyone to make sure that the gelding is kept separate from the mares. Did he do it from the get go or has anything changed to make him keep mounting them?
 
I assume you know who the 'someone' is and it's not just a case of the gelding putting himself in the field with the mares overnight?
 
How irresponsible! Can't you yo take a closer interest in what's going on in the evenings just to see who's doing it? In the meantime maybe a sign up in a communal area to say why the horses have been split up, ie because yours and your friend's mares are being injured.

I'd be fuming if it was my girl. :(
 
Would it be a possibility to have the mares in a separate field if the person is refusing to listen? If they aren't going to listen I would rather my mare was separate, as you say and have experienced they can do damage when mounting and its not something I would tolerate, hope you get things sorted! (:
 
Not sure how your yard works but is it a free for all when it comes to turning out? I mean does everyone help out or is it just a select few who do the turning out?
I think you need to speak to everyone involved and try and find out who the two faced git is thats agreeing with you and then going behind your back!

Good luck :)
 
very unfair and selfish, i would hang around one night and see who is doing it and have a word or tell the yard owner. This could end in a nasty injury for someone and it is totally avoidable
 
Are you sure he isn't jumping the fence? My sisters 13.2 pony used to jump out of the geldings feild and into the mares when he felt like it......even had to walk down a track! :D
 
im pretty sure he's not jumping the fence, there are two fence lines between him and the girls, the track between them is just wide enough for a car to fit through, so unless is he skilled enough to do a double/bounce, onto gravel track from a slopy, slippery hill then i dont think he'll jump the fence :) i have now spoken to the owner yet again, he was very apologetic and said that he'll make sure that the horse stays in his field. hopefully this will now stop :)
 
Broke_But_Happy said:
You really need to speak to your YO and she will have to talk to everyone to make sure that the gelding is kept separate from the mares. Did he do it from the get go or has anything changed to make him keep mounting them?
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It only really started when my mare turned up. What we think is the problem is that, before my mare came, he was the boss. Then she turned up and knocked him down two positions and brought the other mare back to number 2 position. There are 3 other mares in that field that he doesnt mount, they are all lower in the herd than him. So we think he is just trying to be dominant over the two mares that are above him, but they're not backing down so its a viscious circle, he keeps trying and they wont back down. This is what we think might be the cause.
 
PingPongPony said:
im pretty sure he's not jumping the fence, there are two fence lines between him and the girls, the track between them is just wide enough for a car to fit through, so unless is he skilled enough to do a double/bounce, onto gravel track from a slopy, slippery hill then i dont think he'll jump the fence :) i have now spoken to the owner yet again, he was very apologetic and said that he'll make sure that the horse stays in his field. hopefully this will now stop :)
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Wouldn't put it past him!

I put my 14.2hh on loan several years back, he was in a herd with us and has always been riggy but has always been with gelding with us. He was kept on his own in the loan home, with an odd few other animals - chickens, sheep etc about. However, the loanee then got a bigger mare on loan and put her in an adjacent field. Now I have owned this pony for 18 years now and he has never ever jumped a fence on his own with me in all this time - he won't even step over a trotting pole or indeed electric fencing when the others knock it all down! However, one evening he decided to jump what was well over 4ft or standard height fencing to get to the mare. The loanee put him back in his field again but he did it again although this time didn't quite make it and ripped a hole in his chest. They then decided it was just easier to leave him with the mare.

So, a very determind horse can and will jump to get to where they want, even if like mine they would never usually do it. I could honestly say I could remove all his current mates and he wouldn't try jump a titchy fence to get to them but seemingly a mare is much more appealing!! :)
 
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