Fuming!

[Nasicus]

I am, as per the title, FUMING.
Just took pup for her first walk around the block (A paltry 500 meters but enough for her), all going lovely, seeing people, dogs.
Turn into the Alleyway to go home, and round the corner comes the local dealers massive Doge De Bordeux cross, quickly followed by the other dog, a Staffy puppy.
Loose from the Garden AGAIN.

Of course, I quickly picked my just shy of 3kg puppy up off the floor, because quite frankly I didn't want her to get stood on or worse. Massive dog then spots her and decides to stand up and pin me against the wall to see puppy. Puppy is terrified, squealing and crawling her way up onto the back of my neck, I'm clinging onto her collar to stop her falling off), I'm trying to shove massive dog off me, but every time I get him off, he stands back up and punches me in the boob as he tries to get to my very upset puppy. Staffy puppy is just being a Staffy Puppy and jumping up at me, but it doesn't help matters.

I finally managed to shove massive dog off, get my footing, try to slip a lead on him (Never has a collar on, whilst my Puppy is perched on my back), he resists the lead (no surprise, owner is one of those 'walk everywhere without a lead cus I'm 'ard' types), so I take it off, clip it onto the Staffy Puppy (wearing a collar thankfully) and drag them both back up the road to their home (Puppy still perched on my back so I'm one handed and bent over) where I give the owner an earful, the usual 'I dont know where they're getting out' and then saying half the fence is made of a fecking laundry rack ARGH.

I'm so pissed off. I phoned the bloody council and told them, because these dogs get out multiple times a week. I now have a Puppy that has had a terrible experience and I can only hope that it hasn't undone a lot of our socialization work. And what if that had been a little old lady walking her chihuahua? I dread to think!

I know some might admonish me for picking Puppy up, but when two loose dogs come tearing around the corner, and one of them is the size of a shetland pony, I'm not taking my chances with my tiny puppy.

 

[dogatemysalad]

So glad you and the puppy are ok.

 

[Nasicus]

So glad you and the puppy are ok.

Thank you DAMS, I realize it could have been a lot worse if the Massive Dog had been in a different mood, but I'm just so angry that it even happened.

 

[cauda equina]

Well done for phoning the council
I would keep on at the council and make them tell me what they were doing about it

 

[SAujla]

No choice but to pick the puppy up, don't think you should second-guess that at all. Judging by his behaviour after then you did the right thing. Very scary though you remained remarkably calm. I'd have got my pup home asap and not done a thing about the other two

 

[DressageCob]

I don't think anyone could criticise you for picking up the puppy in that scenario. She could have got squashed, used as a plaything, injured or scared (even more than she was). Those dogs are a liability. it is lucky you weren't injured. I hope for their sake the owner dog-proofs their garden; should the dogs be labelled dangerous after they cause someone an injury they may not be allowed home again.

 

[Goldenstar]

Of course you where right to pick the puppy up .
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[Nasicus]

I'm relieved people think I did the right thing by picking her up. I guess I've been around the kind of people that consider picking a puppy up out of a situation sacrilege for far too long!

 

[Nasicus]

No choice but to pick the puppy up, don't think you should second-guess that at all. Judging by his behaviour after then you did the right thing. Very scary though you remained remarkably calm. I'd have got my pup home asap and not done a thing about the other two

For all my flaws, being able to remain calm in a bad situation is one skill I'm very thankful for!

 

[splashgirl45]

def right to pick up a tiny puppy in those circumstances, hope it wont make her worried about dogs in the future. do you have any friends with dogs so she could meet them and have a good experience. i would do that a s a p if it was me. i also have a tiny puppy although she is now 4.5kg so growing.....can we have a pic of puppy? i love seeing pics of other peoples dogs especially the puppies

 

[Bionic Boy]

You done exactly the right thing picking your puppy up, I hope puppy is still OK when you go out again.
Would it be possible to somehow ring the warden or take the dogs to police/local kennels when it happens again, maybe if they have to pay a fee every time their dogs escape they might try and stop it.

 

[FinnishLapphund]

It must have been very frightening, and I'm not surprised you're fuming.

I know you said to not tell you that you shouldn't have lifted up your dog, and I'm not saying that, in the heat of the moment we react, and do whatever we did.
At the same time, I'm going to have to go against what others have said, and say that what happened is exactly why you shouldn't lift dogs up.
Lifting up only works when it actually gets your dog out of the other dogs reach, but it can also work as a temptation for large dogs to stand up on their back legs to still try to reach your dog in it's lifted up position. Just as what happened this time, and then you're in a worse position to defend yourself, and your dog.
Which is why keeping the dog behind you on the ground is a better option.

But as said, in the heat of the moment, we do whatever we did, and I can totally understand the temptation to pick up your dog, especially when something the size of a small elephant comes charging against you. I've been in a few such situations, but since I usually have had 2 or 3 bitches with me, the urge to want to pick them all up at once have been quite pointless.

I hope your puppy, and you, is under the circumstances okayish.

 

[Nasicus]

Well, I've just taken Puppy out for a quick walk down through the alleyway where it happened and back, and thankfully she didn't seem concerned walking through there, she was quite happy sniffing all the things. We also came across a Patterdale and she desperately wanted to say Hello (but we kept our distance as it's a rescue and not good with other dogs), so I'm pleased she's not been put off other dogs completely. I'm arranging with my (Zoom) Puppy Class instructor to have a distanced, controlled meetup with her large dog and see where we go from there.

And of course you may, Splash

 

[maisie06]

I am, as per the title, FUMING.
Just took pup for her first walk around the block (A paltry 500 meters but enough for her), all going lovely, seeing people, dogs.
Turn into the Alleyway to go home, and round the corner comes the local dealers massive Doge De Bordeux cross, quickly followed by the other dog, a Staffy puppy.
Loose from the Garden AGAIN.

Of course, I quickly picked my just shy of 3kg puppy up off the floor, because quite frankly I didn't want her to get stood on or worse. Massive dog then spots her and decides to stand up and pin me against the wall to see puppy. Puppy is terrified, squealing and crawling her way up onto the back of my neck, I'm clinging onto her collar to stop her falling off), I'm trying to shove massive dog off me, but every time I get him off, he stands back up and punches me in the boob as he tries to get to my very upset puppy. Staffy puppy is just being a Staffy Puppy and jumping up at me, but it doesn't help matters.

I finally managed to shove massive dog off, get my footing, try to slip a lead on him (Never has a collar on, whilst my Puppy is perched on my back), he resists the lead (no surprise, owner is one of those 'walk everywhere without a lead cus I'm 'ard' types), so I take it off, clip it onto the Staffy Puppy (wearing a collar thankfully) and drag them both back up the road to their home (Puppy still perched on my back so I'm one handed and bent over) where I give the owner an earful, the usual 'I dont know where they're getting out' and then saying half the fence is made of a fecking laundry rack ARGH.

I'm so pissed off. I phoned the bloody council and told them, because these dogs get out multiple times a week. I now have a Puppy that has had a terrible experience and I can only hope that it hasn't undone a lot of our socialization work. And what if that had been a little old lady walking her chihuahua? I dread to think!

I know some might admonish me for picking Puppy up, but when two loose dogs come tearing around the corner, and one of them is the size of a shetland pony, I'm not taking my chances with my tiny puppy.

next time dump them with the dog warden so he has to pay to get them back... Idiots like him will keep taking the P unless it's hitting them in the pocket....

 

[splashgirl45]

she is beautiful, sounds like it hasnt affected her too much thank goodness

 

[Nasicus]

next time dump them with the dog warden so he has to pay to get them back... Idiots like him will keep taking the P unless it's hitting them in the pocket....

If I happen across them again, sans Puppy, I definitely will. I couldn't have just left them to it though, as the alleyway leads out onto the main road, and whilst the Massive Dog probably has some road sense, the little Staffy Puppy would likely get run over, and I'd have been distraught if that happened when I could have done something about it. It's not his fault his owner is a moron

 

[paddy555]

next time dump them with the dog warden so he has to pay to get them back... Idiots like him will keep taking the P unless it's hitting them in the pocket....

Totally agree

)I appreciate the Bordeaux x was large )

unless people take action this will carry on, I am sick to the back teeth of dogs going for my dog, horses or me on my bike or simply me. I have come off my bike 3 times now due to other dogs going for my own dog who was running (attached) with me, wedged between the bike and the wall and perfectly under control.
If a large dog stands up on me that is assault in my view and could attack me. If it has no collar best to get it to the police and dog warden's kennels. Not up to me to take it home. I could take it to the wrong person. Best the authorities establish who the owner is and he has to pay to retrieve it.

If a stray dog comes for me/my dog in the street and the owner is out of sight I would hold onto it and refuse to give it back. Ask the owner when they turn up to prove it is theirs, after all they could be dog thieves, and say I was taking it to the warden. (OK I would probably give it in the end but would set out to worry them first)

If a loose dog is near home I would shut it in the stables (obviously feed, water it and give it a bed) and leave it there until someone comes running.

Dogs do genuinely escape and go missing and I would do everything I could to help however most of these problems dogs are caused by human complacency.
Rant over.

 

[Nasicus]

Puppy and I went for a walk down the playing fields yesterday, with the intention of meeting lots of other on lead dogs, and I'm pleased to say she's still happy and excited to meet dogs of all shapes and sizes, phew! Lots of very kind people who were happy to help when I approached and asked if it was okay if Puppy could say hello to their dog

 

[meleeka]

I’d have picked puppy up too. If you can pretend to be happy about it then all the better “ooh look at the big dog coming, how lovely not” in your best cheerful voice, so that the puppy doesn’t pick up on your stress. I’d have probably left the dogs and got away quickly, while secretly hoping they came to harm to teach the owner a lesson. Not the dogs fault of course, but the owner might see sense then.

I’d avoid that way if you can.

 

[Nasicus]

I’d have picked puppy up too. If you can pretend to be happy about it then all the better “ooh look at the big dog coming, how lovely not” in your best cheerful voice, so that the puppy doesn’t pick up on your stress. I’d have probably left the dogs and got away quickly, while secretly hoping they came to harm to teach the owner a lesson. Not the dogs fault of course, but the owner might see sense then.

I’d avoid that way if you can.

That would normally be my way of handling things, a good old 'Ahaha look at that, how silly' attitude (usually how I handle any histrionics from the horses too lol), but I barely had time to register that /something/ big was running around the corner towards and to scoop the pup up before Massive Dog was standing up.

As for avoiding that alleyway, it's a bit difficult as it's the way out the bottom of the cul-de-sac. We're on a huge hill, so going out the top and around, and then back again to avoid the alleyway is knackering for me, let alone the dog. However, it's not all that often I walk that way anyway, admittedly the alleyway spooks me, but it always has since I was a wee kid!
I did run into crappy owners (He's probably around 17-18ish at a guess) Dad though, and gave him a talking to about fixing his damn fence, and how if it had been someone less tolerant or someone weaker or vulnerable, it could have ended badly and the police would have been involved.