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this is what I meant - amazing the photographer got one of the 3 rears like this :D

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It's photos like this where I can hear someone say 'pull on one rein, pull on one rein' - that photo shows that the last thing you'll be thinking is you need to pull on one pigging rein :D

Well sat :)
 
Bl**** heck!!! Im amazed you stayed on..........That is an amazing photo, worth pride of place for all the wrong reasons! Sorry, didnt see your previous report so not sure what was occuring but I take my hat off to you.
 
Nugget La Poneh said:
It's photos like this where I can hear someone say 'pull on one rein, pull on one rein' - that photo shows that the last thing you'll be thinking is you need to pull on one pigging rein :D

Well sat :)
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Ha ha that made me laugh out loud - no ******* chance, he went up in a second before anyone could have pulled on one rein :D Never done this at all before and did it completely out of the blue, bless him... :p :D :D
 
Nugget La Poneh said:
It's photos like this where I can hear someone say 'pull on one rein, pull on one rein' - that photo shows that the last thing you'll be thinking is you need to pull on one pigging rein :D

Well sat :)
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Actually though if you can feel them starting to go before they've actually gone up, If you yank the head round to one side (so the horses nose is touching your leg) and whip them round really quickly you can stop (and cure) most rears. Also helps with napping too - if they refuse to go forwards whip them round in a circle so quickly that they done know which way is up, and then move them forward quickly while they don't know what's happening . Works well (not great for the legs though :()
 
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Smurf's Gran said:
Actually though if you can feel them starting to go before they've actually gone up, If you yank the head round to one side (so the horses nose is touching your leg) and whip them round really quickly you can stop (and cure) most rears. Also helps with napping too - if they refuse to go forwards whip them round in a circle so quickly that they done know which way is up, and then move them forward quickly while they don't know what's happening . Works well (not great for the legs though :()
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I know it works, but that is making the assumption you know the horse is going to do it, and you have the opportunity to counteract it. However, the average (as in one that doesn't ride quirky horses for a living) rider will not have the chance to hone the skill of think 'uh-oh, wheelie alert, pull left'.
 
Nugget La Poneh said:
I know it works, but that is making the assumption you know the horse is going to do it, and you have the opportunity to counteract it. However, the average (as in one that doesn't ride quirky horses for a living) rider will not have the chance to hone the skill of think 'uh-oh, wheelie alert, pull left'.
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Yes !! as I stated ! Though I think most average riders would have some idea, (some of the time) of what to expect if their horse started backing off ! and yanking one rein hard is not a difficult skill for the average rider.

Its understanding what skills to have in your tool kit and when top use what.
 
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Smurf's Gran said:
Yes !! as I stated ! Though I think most average riders would have some idea, (some of the time) of what to expect if their horse started backing off ! and yanking one rein hard is not a difficult skill for the average rider.

Its understanding what skills to have in your tool kit and what to certain ones.
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He didn't back off. At all. He was tense, motionless and I was fully expecting him to explode into a bucking fit which is what he has done before. As NLP correctly says, I had no idea at all that he was about to go up like this.

As usual a post that was made as a light hearted addendum to my previous thread has turned into a debate on how I should have psychic powers and should have anticipated this.... sigh....
 
Lévrier;12874378 said:
He didn't back off. At all. He was tense, motionless and I was fully expecting him to explode into a bucking fit which is what he has done before. As NLP correctly says, I had no idea at all that he was about to go up like this.

As usual a post that was made as a light hearted addendum to my previous thread has turned into a debate on how I should have psychic powers and should have anticipated this.... sigh....
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Sorry, I didn't meant to start the turn. Although I think I have put a name to the voice in my initial post :D
 
Lévrier;12874378 said:
He didn't back off. At all. He was tense, motionless and I was fully expecting him to explode into a bucking fit which is what he has done before. As NLP correctly says, I had no idea at all that he was about to go up like this.

As usual a post that was made as a light hearted addendum to my previous thread has turned into a debate on how I should have psychic powers and should have anticipated this.... sigh....
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Actually, it wasn't directed at you or indeed if you have psychic powers which I'm sure would be ridiculous (but as usual on HHF threads have a life of their own)
It was supposed to be a useful suggestion on how to stop a horse from rearing - our yard was given a demonstration some years ago on this very useful technique - and as a responsible horse owner this seemed like a useful place to share it -- it was not personal at all and made no reference to you or if your horses was backing off or not - though NLP seems to have taken it as directly disagreeing with what she had stated - which I find odd, as all circumstances are different as are all horses - the more info we all have and share the better I would say.
 
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Thank you for sharing, perhaps I am unusual as I was already well aware of that technique......if only I had had any chance to implement it! Such is life :)
 
My lad does this when he's scared! I try and prevent it by doing shoulder in/leg yield but sometimes this is futile lol. At his first competition the yesterday he was bewildered by the warm up ring and did a lot of rears bucks and mini jumps...I think he gets really het up as he's fine if walking round but if he has to stand and watch the result is the energy makes him go up!
 
Lévrier;12874427 said:
I don't think so - can't tolerate rearing horses, if he tries it again he will be history!
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Yeah you did really well! It's ok if you know your horse has a history of rearing, but when you ride a horse you assume it won't rear. Like when mine first reared Id experienced it before on my first horse who was a horror. But when my lovely lad did it, it s**t me up to be honest! The first time he did it I did not react well. Now I know he might do it I can react in the right way, because I can anticipate it. But when you're on a horse that's never reared before, you don't know what to expect, so it's ok to not do "the right thing" I'm sure someone experienced with rearers could anticipate such a thing, but people who've generally ridden normal horses just don't expect it
 
Wow well sat!!! And through 3 of them!! Rearing has to be the scariest thing a horse can do for me. Sorry I have yet to read your other thread to find out exactly what happened, but I hope you were ok after and not too shaken! I would put that photo in a highly-visible place to show off your excellent stickability if I was you!
 
Sorry to be a party pooper but from a safety perspective I think this needs said. "Well sat"?! Not well sat at all. You are lucky you didn't pull him over on top of you. You were hairs breadth from absolute disaster, I find your photo and the attitudes on this thread rather disturbing. Does no one see the danger here? You look totally out of your depth with a horse whose attitude is to rear like that if stressed. Your arms should have been round his neck, a neck strap is still potentially going to pull him over because your weight would still be pulling back if you had indeed been holding it. Please think carefully about putting yourself in this sort of situation again. Sitting a rear is something an experienced rider will do naturally.

You could have been killed!
 
FfionWinnie said:
Sorry to be a party pooper but from a safety perspective I think this needs said. "Well sat"?! Not well sat at all. You are lucky you didn't pull him over on top of you. You were hairs breadth from absolute disaster, I find your photo and the attitudes on this thread rather disturbing. Does no one see the danger here? You look totally out of your depth with a horse whose attitude is to rear like that if stressed. Your arms should have been round his neck, a neck strap is still potentially going to pull him over because your weight would still be pulling back if you had indeed been holding it. Please think carefully about putting yourself in this sort of situation again. Sitting a rear is something an experienced rider will do naturally.

You could have been killed!
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I'm swaying more towards this tbh. You were inches from pulling him over.

That said I appreciate he did it without warning and caught you by surprise - you also have stated you don't do rearers, so this isn't a 'judgemental' post. But for me it's a cringy photo rather than a well sat photo.

Stay safe
 
Thank you party pooper, as the person involved I am very very well aware that I could have been killed, I am very well aware that he was a fraction away from going over backwards onto me, and I am very well aware how I should have reacted (throw my weight forwards, throw my arms around his neck etc) - but as always someone needs to point out the obvious!

I've been riding for 25 years now and have never had a horse rear on me like that before, so no I wasn't expecting it at all hence my poor reaction in the photo of te first rear. Sadly you weren't there to see how I reacted to the other two, and neither was the photographer?

But hey, don't let that spoil your opportunity to be supercilious and condescending :) online warriors rock :)
 
Take it that way if you want but it was said purely with absolute utter fear for your safety. I was not rude, unlike you. And no you shouldn't be "throwing" your weight anywhere.
 
FfionWinnie said:
Take it that way if you want but it was said purely with absolute utter fear for your safety. I was not rude, unlike you. And no you shouldn't be "throwing" your weight anywhere.
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Lol - you think I wasn't concerned about my safety, and the safety of the pony, when it was happening? I'm sorry that you think sarcasm is rudeness, that of course is your perogative, I was merely incredulous that someone could have thought it necessary to point out the absolutely obvious to any experienced horse rider :)

You appear to take every comment I make very literally so I won't bother responding about your interpretation of anything I have said or may say....although the irony of people throwing their weight around is not lost on me :)
 
So sorry that your lovely little horse was so out of his comfort zone at his first party. What a shock for you when he has been so well behaved. I am sure you were ready for him to be excited but his reaction was a bit excessive.
Negative remarks do not help the horse rider. All riders need to be positive and confident. I think you have decided the way forward yourself. he needs to go out and see shows without trying to cling to a friend. he may not even compete, just get used to the atmosphere, so different from hacking. Good luck I am sure you will get there.
 
I can totaly sympathise Mine spent his first ridden show spinning! He lost all confidence and panicked at being asked to move away from a person leading him.
I just walked him round (with a leader) untill he relaxed and then I found anouther show to go to and long reined him round the show for a couple of hours before riding him for 10 mins. He was fine after that! May be worth trying as at least if he goes up and over in longriens you are unlikely to get crushed
 
Must of been the weekend for bad days! My TB went to jump her 2nd BN this week. Took her the other week and she was fab, may aswell of been a newcomers for how she was jumping! This week she was skitty and soo green and silly! I got jumped off at number 6.... theres always next week! :)
 
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