Gaddafi Killed

Hairy Old Cob said:
Shame the same couldnt happen to his Mate T. BLIAR
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Yes maybe and Broon , mandy, all the labour wimmin.. Hunne , CMD and clegg oh best stop there!!!!!
Yes gaddafi hope he exprianced something of what his people have suffered over the last forty something years from him and his henchmen.. lets just hope peace
and harmony can be enjoyed by the people in that country from now on....
 
Was it really necessary to show stills and video of his body though, and mobile phone videos of him getting severely beaten just before his death? Why would we in our culture benefit from seeing that?! :(
 
Shilasdair said:
I hope they release his body to his family for burial.
RIP Gaddafi.
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RIP???? I hope not!!! if there is a hell I hope this mass murdering tyrant is on hot coals and hopefully his family will suffer not gain from his demise as they are also implicated in some very nasty bussiness too..... dump the body at sea , and lets hope they can get a stable goverment and peace now...
 
perfect11s said:
RIP???? I hope not!!! if there is a hell I hope this mass murdering tyrant is on hot coals and hopefully his family will suffer not gain from his demise as they are also implicated in some very nasty bussiness too..... dump the body at sea , and lets hope they can get a stable goverment and peace now...
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This.
I wonder sometimes if people actually even knowing the meaning of RIP,
seems to be a word ppl throw out there automatically when someone dies regardless of who it is, I mean why would you wish peace on that monster?
 
midi said:
This.
I wonder sometimes if people actually even knowing the meaning of RIP,
seems to be a word ppl throw out there automatically when someone dies regardless of who it is, I mean why would you wish peace on that monster?
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Perhaps because, by wishing that he suffer, that makes you as 'monstrous' as he is?
Gah.
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midi said:
This.
I wonder sometimes if people actually even knowing the meaning of RIP,
seems to be a word ppl throw out there automatically when someone dies regardless of who it is, I mean why would you wish peace on that monster?
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Perhaps for the same reason we pray 'have mercy on his soul'? His life was full of evil acts, and for him, his judgement day has arrived and I wouldn't want to be in his shoes right now.
 
I must admit I wouldn't wish anything very nice on him, but not really anything too bad either. I believe in karma and I think that'll take care of him just fine. Some branches of buddhism think we come back as animals if we haven't progressed in this life. Perhaps some form of rodent is in order for him??
 
I disagree.

He got what he deserved, nobody can cause so much misery to others and expect to get off with it.

I don't believe he is suffering as I don't believe there is such a thing as hell. He's dead, it's over for him and was within a few hours, if that.

He doesn't deserve any respect in his death, and I will not hope that he RIP.

I would imagine images and videos of his body were shown after the uproar when Bin Laden was killed but with no proof.

He caused misery and suffering not only in his country but also in the UK.

RIP all who lost their lives in the Lockerbie bombing.
 
Shilasdair said:
Perhaps because, by wishing that he suffer,......
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mymare,

ending the life of the tyrant was fine by me, and most I suspect. The point is that to make him suffer, makes us no better then he. The end of Gaddafi was a relatively painless experience. For society to take any pleasure in his suffering, would make us his copy.

Alec.
 
Shilasdair said:
Perhaps because, by wishing that he suffer, that makes you as 'monstrous' as he is?
Gah.
S :D
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Where did I say I wish suffering upon him? hes gone already.
I really hate when people twist my words, ugh....
I don't see how not wishing peace upon someone makes me the same as him? I mean honestly how silly and insulting.

mymare said:
He doesn't deserve any respect in his death,
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This, seems absurd to wish or pay respects when they don't deserve it imo.
 
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mymare said:
He doesn't deserve any respect in his death, and I will not hope that he RIP.
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Everyone deserves respect in death.

Treating the dead with disrespect is a war crime according to the Geneva convention.
Showing respect for the dead has been accepted practice in military history for time immemorial amongst those soldiers who consider themselves honourable.
 
I agree with Alec. Undoubtedly a monster and even worse, I am sure there will be many many more stories of his atrocities which will continue to come out for years. You cannot compare his death in quite the same way as with Bin Laden. Bin Laden was killed(while applauded) in a highly political act by another country. Gaddafi was killed by his own countrymen who showed no restraint. Do I honestly believe he was killed in cross fire? do I heck. Do I understand the emotions. Yes I do.

BUT what I cannot get away from is, that in the end, we as a society behaved no better than he did or a pack of animals and THAT is what I find horrific.

And as for showing those images - I understand that if the BBC had chosen not to, people could simply fire up their internet but again, I really hate the fact that we can, in a modern age, view the death of another human being. Did he deserve mercy? well not in my opinion but did we, collectively need to behave better than he ever did - yes we did.

I am spiritual, so I do believe he will have to face his punishment. Would I want him alive, costing money? no not really but we pride ourselves on being a civilised society and that was the correct option.

I would suggest that some people read the (In my mind) horrific "Lord of the Flies" by William Golding. Now that is a book that has never left me. For those of you who haven't read it, its the story of a number of young boys shipwrecked. Ah, you think, how nice.

It isn't. Without society to guide them, they rapidly disintegrate and I keep seeing echos of that today. How easily we revert.

I hope Libya starts to become stable again but wonder what will fill the gap left by Gaddafi. Not supporting him at all but after 40 years, no real opposition, who is going to step into the gap?
 
To me, what the Libyans did to him was up to them. They are the ones who have suffered at his hands. The part I find completely offensive is how the media have gone completely bloodlusting and are revelling in glorifying this situation. The front page images shown on newspaper stands and online are horrific and completely unacceptable. I wonder if those same Editors would feel as proud of their front pages if they had an image in front of them of a toddler walking past the news stands looking at these bloodied and gore ridden photographs, because that is something that will have happened 100s of times since his death. Children do not need to be exposed to such imagery and if we as adults cannot make rational decisions about what to show and have such a cavalier attitude towards the death of a human being, why should our children grow up to be any different. They should feel utterly ashamed of themselves.
 
A good post LynneB, and as an after thought, I suppose that as we live in our relatively sheltered islands, it's so easy for us to be appalled at the behaviour of those who commit butchery, but then I wonder if we would be any different, when placed in such a situation.

As I witness atrocities, and do my level best to be non-judgemental, I do wonder if the world, or we as a species, have actually made any progress, at all.

Bias and bigotry seem to be basic human flaws, and I suppose that we have to live with it. I should add, that I'm just as flawed as any other, in my own way!! :D

Alec.
 
Alec Swan said:
mymare,

ending the life of the tyrant was fine by me, and most I suspect. The point is that to make him suffer, makes us no better then he. The end of Gaddafi was a relatively painless experience. For society to take any pleasure in his suffering, would make us his copy.

Alec.
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I so agree with this, he was undoubtably an evil man but the scenes of his death made the perpetrators no better than he was. Now he cannot be made to answer for his actions.

I also think that their actions have made a martyr of him, hell I felt compassion watching the scenes, I also felt sadness for the human race and what we can be like, how do you think those that still support him feel, the rebels have given those supporters a figurehead to hold on to.
 
it is such a difficult one re his actual death. He committed such heinous crimes against his own people and had no thought of their suffering - even his family members were cruel beyond belief, his daughter in law poured boiling water on their maid's head and left her without medical treatment, food or water - these were not compassionate people. It could be that the man who shot him had seen members of his own family treated as such and could not hold himself back. They have also seen comrades killed over the months. I can't condemn them for what they did, but I wish they had not done it, as I would have liked him to stand trial, to live in jail, to lose all his wealth and to suffer, just that bit longer by being a nobody in a country he once ruled. I do still think showing the graffic images are unnecessary and shameful.
 
Alec Swan said:
mymare,

ending the life of the tyrant was fine by me, and most I suspect. The point is that to make him suffer, makes us no better then he. The end of Gaddafi was a relatively painless experience. For society to take any pleasure in his suffering, would make us his copy.

Alec.
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Agree. I am also dissapointed that he didnt get brought to justice for his crimes
 
Haha, if Gadhafi returns as a rodent in his next life he will still be wicked and can bite the hell out of people.l just wish he never comes back.
 
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