Gastric ulcer management

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I know this has probably been done to death and have used search box /read previous threads etc but still have a few questions

Horse is getting scoped next week and is under vet supervision

I'm convinced she has ulcers, she is showing all the signs and made an improvement while on a gastric supplement , I understand I need to scope and then treat them before continuing with management and diet changes

After treatment I am planning to feed her
Dengie healthy tummy or alpha a oil depending on what she will eat as she has been very fussy , I am hoping her appetite will improve once treated

Micronized linseed , she has been on this as part of her previous diet and it seems to help keep weight on and improve the condition of her (terrible) feet

Some sort of high fibre cube
Will normal horse and pony cubes be ok ? Or are alphalpha pellets better ?
Can I feed her baileys fibre nuggets ? This is all she will eat at the min dampened and rolled in the upset supplement

If I feel she needs more energy thinking of adding some rolled oats

Are all sugars out of the question i.e. No carrots ? Apples or mints ?

Can I feed speedy beat ?

Any info or helpful hints or tips anyone has are welcome as this is a whole new world to me and I really want to get to the bottom of my lovely mares problems and keep her healthy and happy in future
 
Keep it as simple as possible, I feed soaked grass nuts as a base, then add a gastric supplement, micronised linseed and a vit/min supplement or balancer if necessary.

Egusin is great or have had the same results with VistaEq which is much cheaper.

Obviously treat the ulcers first, and investigate the cause of the ulcers, then go down the long term management route.
 
When you have got rid of the ulcers the feet will improve and she will hold weight better because of improved digestion. :)
I had very good results with feeding fast fibre with thunderbrooks base mix, along with their Ulcagon and liquid Gold. It was expensive but worked very well.
 
Thanks for the suggestions
Obviously I'm not going to go mad and feed her everything at once but trying to put a list of "ok to feed her" and what to avoid together as she is so fussy I may have to try a few difference combinations till I get her diet right

The only thing she will entertain at the moment are baileys fibre nuggets
 
Will be followings as am in the same boat. I still feed one polo to catch him and one to say "good boy" before turning back out but apart from that I have limited all "sweets" to just those two just in case. His diet has always consisted of grass nuts, linseed and Alfa a oil (in winter only) with as much forage as he will eat, and a big handful of Alfa a oil while I groom and tack up to give the stomach something to stop acid splash. In summer he is out 24/7 with no bucket feed bar coming in for a couple of hours to ride etc and then he has hay in the stable while I tack up. Summer paddock is well grazed as he can get porky but enough to pick small clumps of grass and keep him movingly around. Winter he drops weight super easily as he is so stressy so he is out for as long as he wants, with a haynet and his breakfast as I've found this set up stops him hooleying round as soon as I unclip the headcollar. When he starts either running up and down the fence line or stands by the gate he comes in to ad lib hay and dinner and an extra bucket of dried grass to keep him eating something.
 
I have started feeding Top Spec Ulsa Kind. Had a dramatic (good) effect on 2 of mine. My mare used to pull faces and go to bite when saddled and girth tightened, now stands with no reaction.
 
Thank you checked my local feed shop today and they sell the top spec Ulsa kind so that will b next weeks perchase
Picked up a bag of healthy tummy chaff today to make a start with diet Change and use the chaff to Line her tummy before I ride , fingers crossed she eats it !
Then I will add some of the ulsa kind next week and then sort out a balancer and re add the micronized linseed eventually
 
I have a mare on Alfa a, topspec ulsakind, plus topspec balancer and protexin Acid Ease and it has literally given me a changed horse. Within a week she had stopped chewing wood, was less stressed and happy to eat up. After 2 weeks her stable walking had stopped and she was gaining weight and for the first time in 5 years I've had to cut her food back!
 
Thank you , I really want to get to the bottom of her behaviour and hopefully manage her better so she can be a lot happier in herself
She's getting scoped tomorrow so hopefully I will get some answers , get her treated and then manage her better so they don't come back

That is if gastric ulcers are the cause of all her problems but she is showing nearly all of the signs and showed some improvement in behaviour on a supplement trial
 
Thank you that's helpful
She has grade 2 ulcers and treatment has started today with gastric-guard and a gastric suplement from the vet
Thank you all very much for the tips and info as I know that ulcers will have been discussed in debth over the last few years , I've just not managed to find any helpful threads it's going to be a steep learning curve !
 
There's usually something triggering the ulcers - stress or underlying pain somewhere. One of mine has a trigger which is anxiety over food. She's a very good doer so not restricting her intake is a struggle - no off button! Routine and ad lib food has been the key to sorting her out. Hope you get to the bottom of it
 
Hi. Since treating my gelding’s ulcers I always feed him 1/2 to 1 scoop of chaff with 120g m. linseed, within 20 mins of riding him. I have been feeding healthy tummy and alfa a but am now looking at a non alfalfa chaff due to behavioural issues. All the best for the treatment 😊
 
Gain feeds do a mix called freedom which is for ulcer prone horses. Smells delicious too so might be an option for a fussy eater.
 
Low sugar (sugar converts to acid) oil such as micronised linseed to line and soothe the gut and high fibre to ensure the GIT is always full. Ad lib hay/forage and low sugar grass would be the basis for me, (avoid ryegrass like the plague) plus unmolassed beet pulp. Forget the proprietory brands unless you have carefully checked the ingredients and are sure of what is in them, straights will do just as good a job if you can get hold of them. There are some ideas on here, although it is USA based so some aren't practical for the UK:-
https://equinenutritionnerd.com/201...tions-for-stomach-ulcer-treatment-prevention/
 
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