Gastric ulcers - anyone know where to buy omeprazole without prescription?

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As title. A client of mine has a beautiful WB mare by Orlando http://www.belgianwarmblood.com/stallions/Orlando-Elite.pdf with oodles of talent but currently unridable due to gastric ulcers. She was cured of the ulcers but needed 6 weeks of gastroguard. Then she was put in foal but the stress of weaning has brought the ulcers back. Owner no longer insured but has so far bought her gastroguard for two 2 week courses, but each time it has not been long enough and the symptoms come back shortly after we start riding. It is £250 a week for gastroguard, yet you can buy 3 days worth of omeprazole (same drug) for £5 but need a prescription. Does anyone know a way around this? Otherwise owner is looking at £1500 to get the six weeks of gastroguard the mare needs. She has tried every supplement going. Mare is on a cereal free diet with ad lib hay. Thanks.
 
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As title. A client of mine has a beautiful WB mare by Orlando with oodles of talent but currently unridable due to gastric ulcers. She was cured of the ulcers but needed 6 weeks of gastroguard. Then she was put in foal but the stress of weaning has brought the ulcers back. Owner no longer insured but has so far bought her gastroguard for two 2 week courses, but each time it has not been long enough and the symptoms come back shortly after we start riding. It is £250 a week for gastroguard, yet you can buy 3 days worth of omeprazole (same drug) for £5 but need a prescription. Does anyone know a way around this? Otherwise owner is looking at £1500 to get the six weeks of gastroguard the mare needs. She has tried every supplement going. Mare is on a cereal free diet with ad lib hay. Thanks.
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Why doesnt she get her vet to write the prescription for omeprazole as some chemists will accept it and she can then buy it over the counter at the cheaper price
 
I had one who was a rescue and therefore local people supported him by donating their unwanted Omeprazole - I think it is prescription only in this country, don't know if you can get in from overseas on the net. If you do get some for her, bear in mind that unlike in Gastroguard, Omeprazole doesn't survive well in an already acid environment. I counteracted this by giving Bicarbonate of Soda as well and it did seem to do the trick. I also gave him coconut oil to line the gut, as well as micronised linseed - I'm not sure which worked best but in combination he now doesn't show any signs of the soreness he had before.
Otherwise maybe worth considering Egusin, from Forage Plus.
 
Marydoll said:
Why doesnt she get her vet to write the prescription for omeprazole as some chemists will accept it and she can then buy it over the counter at the cheaper price
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I will suggest this to her. I think that some vets are reluctant to do this though as it breaks the rules. Don't they have to prescribe only those products licenced for animals? Which is why they can no longer prescribe the cheaper pergolide and have to prescribe prascend? Worth a try though. No harm in asking!
 
JillA said:
I had one who was a rescue and therefore local people supported him by donating their unwanted Omeprazole - I think it is prescription only in this country, don't know if you can get in from overseas on the net. If you do get some for her, bear in mind that unlike in Gastroguard, Omeprazole doesn't survive well in an already acid environment. I counteracted this by giving Bicarbonate of Soda as well and it did seem to do the trick. I also gave him coconut oil to line the gut, as well as micronised linseed - I'm not sure which worked best but in combination he now doesn't show any signs of the soreness he had before.
Otherwise maybe worth considering Egusin, from Forage Plus.
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Thanks, I will look into this. I have just been rummaging in my cupboards as my son used to have omeprazole, but sadly I must have thrown it all out. :( Will look at the forage plus website.

Snowedinuk said:
Can't help directly but I am sure there have been other threads re this on HHO in the past so maybe worth a google
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Will have a look, thanks. Gastroguard seems such a rip off and sadly, I expect the expense of it has resulted in some horses being PTS due to the prohibitive cost. Won't happen to this mare though.
 
Wagtail said:
I will suggest this to her. I think that some vets are reluctant to do this though as it breaks the rules. Don't they have to prescribe only those products licenced for animals? Which is why they can no longer prescribe the cheaper pergolide and have to prescribe prascend? Worth a try though. No harm in asking!
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The product is licensed for use in horses but not in the same way as for humans.
The vet will charge, i think its around £10 for the prescription, but she needs to find a chemist who'll fill it, tbh im not sure how it works out cheaper as the horse dose will surely be much greater than the human dose, and omperazole is an expensive drug.
Its illegal to obtain from abroad and while she may get it, if shes caught, could be prosecuted for dealing in prescription drugs
 
Wagtail said:
I will suggest this to her. I think that some vets are reluctant to do this though as it breaks the rules. Don't they have to prescribe only those products licenced for animals? Which is why they can no longer prescribe the cheaper pergolide and have to prescribe prascend? Worth a try though. No harm in asking!
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human medication can be prescribed for animals on the 'cascade system', you need a written prescription and you need to sign a from to say you are aware that your animal has been prescribed a medication that is not liscensed for whatever type of animal it is but you have been advised it may help.
its called an 'off liscense medication' form, she needs to speak to her vet by the sounds of it
 
I know someone that imported something from America It was the same stuff in powder form- little blue sachets. She told me it was the active ingredient in Gastroguard but at a tiny fraction of the cost. I can look and see the name if you like? My only worry would be having it seized at customs or something?!
 
poiuytrewq said:
I know someone that imported something from America It was the same stuff in powder form- little blue sachets. She told me it was the active ingredient in Gastroguard but at a tiny fraction of the cost. I can look and see the name if you like? My only worry would be having it seized at customs or something?!
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That would be the least of your worries tbh, it would be the prosecution for obtaining illegal drugs on a record that could affect your life
 
Google 'abler omeprazole' and should give you the link to an american site where can get it very reasonably priced.

I can vouch for this site being totally legit,and many people (inc some on here) that have used it successfully.

Won't give anymore details as know some people get antsy about it as not through the vet etc but if want anymore details feel free to PM me.
 
Human drugs can only prescribed under the cascade system if there is not an animal approved version available. Importing from US or any other country is illegal and you need to be aware of the consequences should you get caught.

The number of human capsule for a horse dose would be 8 x 20mg for a 600kg horse, so probably not that cheap at all.

Why to get a prescription and see if you can buy it online from a veterinary pharmacy.
 
devonlass said:
Google 'abler omeprazole' and should give you the link to an american site where can get it very reasonably priced.

I can vouch for this site being totally legit,and many people (inc some on here) that have used it successfully.

Won't give anymore details as know some people get antsy about it as not through the vet etc but if want anymore details feel free to PM me.
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It may be legit for them to sell to her, but its not legit in this country for her to buy, its up to her if she wants to, but as long as shes aware it might possibly have a very negative effect on her life if caught and they choose to prosecute
 
Black Beastie said:
http://www.facebook.com/groups/384361414932696/

There is something call seabuckthorn that is apparently good for ulcers its on this page about four posts or so down :)
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Brilliant, thanks. :)

Britestar said:
Human drugs can only prescribed under the cascade system if there is not an animal approved version available. Importing from US or any other country is illegal and you need to be aware of the consequences should you get caught.

The number of human capsule for a horse dose would be 8 x 20mg for a 600kg horse, so probably not that cheap at all.

Why to get a prescription and see if you can buy it online from a veterinary pharmacy.
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Marydoll said:
It may be legit for them to sell to her, but its not legit in this country for her to buy, its up to her if she wants to, but as long as shes aware it might possibly have a very negative effect on her life if caught and they choose to prosecute
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Thanks. She has decided not to risk it so will be looking to get something specifically for horses.

Cheiro1 said:
www.abler.com
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That's really helpful, thanks.
 
devonlass said:
Google 'abler omeprazole' and should give you the link to an american site where can get it very reasonably priced.

I can vouch for this site being totally legit,and many people (inc some on here) that have used it successfully.

Won't give anymore details as know some people get antsy about it as not through the vet etc but if want anymore details feel free to PM me.
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This.
I have a 'friend' that ordered from them and has been using this. Dont quote me but i believe if its brought for personal use and not resold it is legal! ... as i say dont quote me on that as its a 'friend' who brought it. The abler website is very reliable and safe and the results speak for themselves.
Happy to accept a PM from the OP.
 
Oh and i am absolutley disgusted with the company who produce gastroguard and sell it at the price they do. I hope they can sleep well at night!!! :mad:
 
It's one of the big Pharma companies that produce it -- Pfizer or something like that. Evil (and rapacious capitalism) is part of their manifesto.
 
devonlass said:
Google 'abler omeprazole' and should give you the link to an american site where can get it very reasonably priced.

I can vouch for this site being totally legit,and many people (inc some on here) that have used it successfully.

Won't give anymore details as know some people get antsy about it as not through the vet etc but if want anymore details feel free to PM me.
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I missed this earlier. Thank you.
 
Really bad idea. Things are prescription only in the UK for a reason - so it can be regulated and you are getting what you think you're getting. Drugs purchased online could be sugar pills or worse.

I don't know if ranitidine is used for horses with ulcer problems but that can be purchased Over the counter but chat to a vet first.

It's really not worth it. Sorry to be a kill joy.
 
Marydoll said:
It may be legit for them to sell to her, but its not legit in this country for her to buy, its up to her if she wants to, but as long as shes aware it might possibly have a very negative effect on her life if caught and they choose to prosecute
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I *think* you may find that is a common belief but not actually correct.I have known and heard of many people who have used them and not a single one has had a problem ordering or receiving it.Their website is very open and above board as well,i'm pretty sure they would have to mention at least a disclaimer if there was even a minor legal issue??

Could be wrong but this crops up every time there is a thread made about this,but opinions seem divided,be interesting if anyone who knows for sure could clarify??
 
Ranitidine can be used to treat ulcers, and I learned recently that it also treats hind gut ulcers, which omeprazole can make worse.
 
I'm sure there was a thread about this a while ago and someone posted saying their vet had told them it is perfectly legal to import for personal use but not to sell on. I have used the abler product and found it effective.
 
chazza44 said:
Really bad idea. Things are prescription only in the UK for a reason - so it can be regulated and you are getting what you think you're getting. Drugs purchased online could be sugar pills or worse.

I don't know if ranitidine is used for horses with ulcer problems but that can be purchased Over the counter but chat to a vet first.

It's really not worth it. Sorry to be a kill joy.
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I dont think there is anything wrong with being cautious but i do think you are wrong. Just because we are 'told something' doesnt mean its right! leader or follower.

devonlass said:
I *think* you may find that is a common belief but not actually correct.I have known and heard of many people who have used them and not a single one has had a problem ordering or receiving it.Their website is very open and above board as well,i'm pretty sure they would have to mention at least a disclaimer if there was even a minor legal issue??

Could be wrong but this crops up every time there is a thread made about this,but opinions seem divided,be interesting if anyone who knows for sure could clarify??
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The website is excellent. They have a 'chat' app to ask questions like this. The delivery is quick and reliable and the product is what it says it is.

I would.
 
chazza44 said:
Really bad idea. Things are prescription only in the UK for a reason - so it can be regulated and you are getting what you think you're getting. Drugs purchased online could be sugar pills or worse.

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You forgot another reason,so they can rip people off;)

I for one wasn't suggesting buying from any old website that could be selling you aspirin or sherbet instead of what it claims.The website I and others mentioned is very reputable and used by many people in the US the same as we use out own UK based ones here,certainly not selling people sugar pills to be fair.

Pretty sure anyone who looks at the website could tell they are genuine and selling just as genuine a product as what the vets will rip you off for over here.

Sorry appreciate am going off on a tangent here,but I know this company is legit and that it's been the difference for many horse owners being able to treat their horses/ponies or not.

Not saying OP should use if feels uncomfortable (although know it would help but easy for me to say I know),but would be a shame if others got put off to the point of not exploring it as an option by peoples misconceptions.
 
devonlass said:
You forgot another reason,so they can rip people off;)

I for one wasn't suggesting buying from any old website that could be selling you aspirin or sherbet instead of what it claims.The website I and others mentioned is very reputable and used by many people in the US the same as we use out own UK based ones here,certainly not selling people sugar pills to be fair.

Pretty sure anyone who looks at the website could tell they are genuine and selling just as genuine a product as what the vets will rip you off for over here.

Sorry appreciate am going off on a tangent here,but I know this company is legit and that it's been the difference for many horse owners being able to treat their horses/ponies or not.

Not saying OP should use if feels uncomfortable (although know it would help but easy for me to say I know),but would be a shame if others got put off to the point of not exploring it as an option by peoples misconceptions.
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This!! The linked company are perfectly legit, and it can mean the difference between no treatment and treatment to un-insured horses!
 
i take omeprazole and i had run out just before a bank holday weekend... you can buy it over the counter at the chemists but it is called something different, from memory it was about £11, and i think was only 12 tablets(may be wrong as it was a long time ago) might be worth a visit to the chemist...

not sure how much you pay for gastroguard but is on viovet.co.uk for £178.48 for 7 syringes, you need a prescription from your vet.....hope that helps.
 
devonlass said:
I *think* you may find that is a common belief but not actually correct.I have known and heard of many people who have used them and not a single one has had a problem ordering or receiving it.Their website is very open and above board as well,i'm pretty sure they would have to mention at least a disclaimer if there was even a minor legal issue??

Could be wrong but this crops up every time there is a thread made about this,but opinions seem divided,be interesting if anyone who knows for sure could clarify??
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You are wrong its a prescription only med to obtain it wthout prescription in this country is against the law and if you import it without paying tax you are illegally importing durgs
 
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