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I've posted before about being convinced that Wiggy is actually a very dark buckskin rather than a dark bay. Most of you disagreed with me (which is fine 😆) but this summer, I have been even more convinced that he is. He's even lighter than normal and the sandy colour undertones (rather than red/brown) are far more obvious.

I've started to look into genetic colour testing to satisfy my curiosity but having looked at a few websites, it seems I can test for dun but not for buckskin. I know nothing about colour genetics but I'm guessing that what I need to test for is certain dilutions and or factors? Could anyone tell me what I should be requesting (if, indeed, it's possible) please?

I know it doesn't matter but I have the sort of brain where, once I need to know something, I really need to know!
 
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Can I ask how much a test is please?
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It’s £20 per test. It doesn’t give you a colour profile you have to do a test per gene and just get a negative or positive for that particular gene.

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Annagain said:
It’s £20 per test. It doesn’t give you a colour profile you have to do a test per gene and just get a negative or positive for that particular gene.

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Thank you very much
 
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It doesn't really matter, if the question is bay/buckskin presuming his mane is dark so you know he's got melanin from somewhere, if he was ee he'd be chestnut
 
He’s not chestnut, op had previously posted photos :), where I’d thought he might be faded black.

Annagain if you have any winter fluffs pics I’d be interested to see them :)
 
This is was my first post about it, with photos. He was even lighter than that this summer.
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Thread 'Daft colour question.'

Colour experts - at which point does dark buckskin become bay? I just mean as a a description, not genetically.
I’ve always called Wiggy a dark bay. He’s almost black, especially in winter.

This summer however, he’s a lot lighter than the last two summers and around the tops of his legs and around his tail his coat has a real beige/fawn (rather than brown) tone to it. What colour is he? Not that it really matters, I’m just curious.
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A selection from throughout the year. One very fluffy (he wintered out naked last year as was injured)
One (in field) from this week with semi fluffy coat
One (lying down) in winter but clipped.
… and finally about to get up in the field this week. I doubt it will help with colour but it’s too good not to share.

ETA. You'd think from these all he does when not eating or working is lie down and groom his best bud.... and you'd be right.
 

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Dark bay’s are often incorrectly labelled as dark buckskin in colour genetic facebook group. So does light chestnut horse are constantly being incorrectly labelled as a dark palomino. All buckskin do look like buckskin even the darkest shade because the gene diluting any red pigment is noticeable . The easiest way to figure it out is look at your horse breeding if recorded because just by looking at sire and the dam color would have told you if there there was a possibility of your horse being buckskin because one parent have to be buckskin , would have saved you a lot money. Here is some examples of dark buckskin.
 

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that relies on the parents being registered correctly and being known. I'd also say the 2nd example is sooty rather than a dark shade of buckskin.
 
midnight Legend said:
Dark bay’s are often incorrectly labelled as dark buckskin in colour genetic facebook group. So does light chestnut horse are constantly being incorrectly labelled as a dark palomino. All buckskin do look like buckskin even the darkest shade because the gene diluting any red pigment is noticeable . The easiest way to figure it out is look at your horse breeding if recorded because just by looking at sire and the dam color would have told you if there there was a possibility of your horse being buckskin because one parent have to be buckskin , would have saved you a lot money. Here is some examples of dark buckskin.
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His breeding’s not recorded unfortunately. He came over from Ireland. There’s not even a date of birth on his passport although it did come up when the vet scanned his microchip.
 
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