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Need some help here all you nice folk. I have a friend that buys a project horse every year - ones that most people wouldnt want to work with, untouched and generally rescue cases that nobody wants. She spends as long as necessary getting them right, handling, schooling etc. She gives them every opportunity to have a ongoing future as an allrounder, they all leave her as happy horses and she is very choosy where she lets them go to.
Anyway, this year she has bought a completely untouched and nervous Welsh section D gelding about 15 hands. Nice looking chap, she has had him about a month and he is quite happy now plodding down the road fully tacked up and things have been improving as they normally would do (she has a real knack with these horses)
Now here's the bad bit. She has since seen he has sarcoids on his inner thigh and sheath. Hadnt noticed previously as he was too nervous to get underneath to see and has had to sedate him to get a good look. She is obviously gutted. She feels these need treating but he is too nervous at the moment to let anybody near them. She feels that with more patience and time and more trust that these can be treated but she doesnt have this amount of time and feels that at the moment his future is limited or certainly been put on hold.
She feels she has two choices -
Firstly practically giving him away to an excellent home who would be prepared to put in the time and effort to sort the little chap out to enable him to be treated or -
Have him pts so he doesnt end up in the wrong hands as she doesnt want to see him in some sale ring ending up at the meat market.
She is a genuine horse lover so please don't judge her, she is set to lose money here and most people would have had him shipped off to the sales to recoup some money - not her, she is not like that, she is in bits at the moment over it all.
So the question is could anybody offer this lovely little chap a chance. Somebody with a bit of patience and time and I am sure this horse will make somebody a lovely ride or companion for another or pet?
Or - any other ideas please?
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If the sarcoids arent too big it wouldnt put me off buying him if I liked everything else about him. I have knowingly purchased a horse with sarcoids and had another one get them after I bought her. I can honestly say that neither had any trouble at all with them. I didnt treat them but they didnt grow any bigger either. It would be worth asking the vet to take a quick look as some sarcoid types (apparantly) grow quicker than others
 
Hmm, I would try the first option first- ie pop an add on project horses. How bad are they? do they affect him in any way?
 
Re: Zigzag. Have emailed her to ask her exact sizes so as soon as she gets back to me will let you know.
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Re: Silver_Florin - No she lives in Cornwall and the horse was from a private person Devon way who "collected them" I think, she was cutting down on stock
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How old is the horse? When my horse (now 13) was three he had several sarcoids on the bit of skin behind his sheath. These dropped off before he was 4 and never returned.

He has also always had suspect looking skin at the top of his inner thighs which has never come to anything.

Sarcoids aren't necessarily the end of the world. Your friend could try to treat them herself with thuja tablets mixed into his feed.
 
she should get the vet to look at the sarcoids. When we found that our youngster had one we were at first upset but then we got the vet to have a look and he has given us special stuff to treat it with and thankfully it is falling off. i know that all sarcoids are different but i really think that it would be worth getting the vet out before doing anything else.
 
We have a 10 year old pony in at EMW Herefordshire with similar sited sarcoids of also a similar size. At present all
we are doing is monitoring - under vet advice - and watching nothing changes. Nothing has changed for over 12 months now. The crucial time maybe summer months if flies start to cause a nuisance. Not tried the global herbs supplement but might well do. I certainly think this horse should be given a chance.The equines own immune system can do remarkable things.
 
im sorry but i can belive somebody would even consider having a horse PTS over a sarcoid!!!

thats like divorcing your husband for having a mole!

ok, on the serious side, ive treated 2 horses that have had sarciods, both with herbs, one horse had a huge one between his back legs, so bad the poor boy was walking like hed pooped hes self.

the 2nd, had a large one on his sheath and 11 others else where., both horses treated, not so much as a scar and to date have note come back, please feel free to pm me.
 
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Zigzag - He has one marble sized on his "bits" and one about 50p sized on his inner thigh from what I can gather.
Rueysmum - He is 6 years old.
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She will have to knock some money off but no need to give him away or PTS
 
I really cant believe she is considering PTS over these unless ther are radically different from other sarcoids? They are not large at all and will not affect his resale value hugely.
If she says she has the time to bring on ridden, she should have the time to bring on groundwork too to get a good look, unless they are interfering>
 
Re: Jhoward & TripleSandH - it's the fact that he is so nervous around that area and would take so long to get him to allow you to have a look at them or to treat them daily. It almost looks like somebody has tried to pull one off and thats maybe why he is so dubious when you look underneath him.
She doesnt want his confidence wrecking by rushing him.
Where she keeps the horse is where they breed Connemara Ponies and although she and myself and many others I have spoken to agree that they dont seem to spread between horses she feels that it isnt fair to take the risk. She hasnt got anywhere else to keep him either.
She doesn't want for one minute to have him pts but she has the summer to turn him around and will not be able to without stressing the poor lad out or by treating the sarcoids until he has had time to adjust and learn to trust a little more.
She has only had him about a month and when she got him you couldnt get anywhere near him (hence not noticing them in the first place) He now leads down the road in tack and is happy to do so.
She is set to and willing to lose alot of money on the horse to find him a good home who has the time to put into him so I don't think anybody could accuse her of not caring. Many would have him run through a sale but she would never do that.
She has a project a year and never makes much money on them and takes on only horses that other people wont bother with. She does it because she is a horse lover. She isn't a numpty and is very experienced and comes from a very horsey background.
The only reason she would pts is if she couldnt find him the right home and doesnt want him ending up an Amersham case.
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I understand exactly where you are coming from and agree with what you say honestly but she really has got the horses' best interests at heart.
Come on people, there must be somebody who will give him a chance that has lots of time and patience
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just to let everyone know..i have been chatting to the owner today and will be going to see the chappie at the weekend. The owner is in a situation where she needs to do something and at this present time i am in a situation where i can help...sarcoids dont bother me and i have had lots of experinece dealing with them..however it sounds like he needs some one to one time with someone, with love and attention.

rest assured the owner only wants what is best for the boy which is not the situation she is in!!
 
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just to let everyone know..i have been chatting to the owner today and will be going to see the chappie at the weekend. The owner is in a situation where she needs to do something and at this present time i am in a situation where i can help...sarcoids dont bother me and i have had lots of experinece dealing with them..however it sounds like he needs some one to one time with someone, with love and attention.

rest assured the owner only wants what is best for the boy which is not the situation she is in!!

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Oh thats great news, I'm pleased you had the chance to have a chat with her today and hope you can both sort something out for him.
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it was a shocker to read, many people have used herbs, fed in the feed.

theres a million people on here that would take on a project horse that was near free,

i fi hadnt of just bought one id be there in a flash, i think the horse has a huge chance of finding a home, as some one else said, sarciods to people that know about them dosnt put them off bying a horse.

good luck
 
if they are the only 2 he has, and are of the size you say, have them removed...would cost in the region of 150 quid....
 
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if they are the only 2 he has, and are of the size you say, have them removed...would cost in the region of 150 quid....

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Don't know how cheap your vet is but in a call out fee, sedation and examination that would be about £150 already.
 
Not sure if anyone is still reading this thread, but a friend of mine says she had complete success using a homeopathic remedy called Thuja. She used the cream, but thinks you can also get it in powder or maybe pill form to feed. Might be worth looking into!
 
I'm still reading it! Thanks for that I will let her know, it may be worth a try. The problem she has is that he is kept at a Connie Stud and some people say they that Sarcoids are catching so she feels she cant keep him there and has nowhere else to take him.
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Sarcoids, catching
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First I have heard of that!!!!

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Yes, I know, totally agree. I had one years ago in a field with my others and never had a problem but there has been some people who think that they are a virus and can be spread by flies. I think it's rubbish too but you know what some folk are like!
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