Georgie Spence Wins unaffiliated combined training !!!!!!!!!

as i say DO we know REAL reason............... NO ........ and i'm pretty sure there would be good reason for a pro to pop out and do comp

I just think are folks getting exicted with their little typing digits.......
 
I suppose we all have different ideas of what is right and wrong. I wouldn't let my daughter compete in a 1'6" class even if it was within the rules. Even if they had a bad fall and need to rebuild confidence, I would make sure they entered HC in fairness to other competitors. Perhaps I'm just old-fashioned.
 
Good on her for having the guts to compete at 1'6 it must look terrifying on a horse who has done PN.

Clearly I need to be doing more 1'6 classes to sharpen up my skills and think this is where I am going wrong in being completely rubbish.
 
nar........... just following rules of comp.
And i do strongly believe why would a Pro bother with this event UNLESS there was a good reason, and do we know reason NO........... so give the girl a break.........
 
Hmmmm....doesn't sound a very sportsman like thing to do. Agree with those that say fair enough on a youngster, horse losing confidence, bad run or having a long lay off, but not those that have just popped quite easily round a BE N and I!!!
 
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Good on her for having the guts to compete at 1'6 it must look terrifying on a horse who has done PN.


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Oi, I'll have you know that 65cm is 2'2 actually
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Good on her for having the guts to compete at 1'6 it must look terrifying on a horse who has done PN.


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Oi, I'll have you know that 65cm is 2'2 actually
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OMG thats nearly Burghley heights
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Your post hits the nail on the head.
At least this discussion has shown that some people do have a sense of sportsmanship and fair play.
 
2'1.59" actually!
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PS - Some people have assumed from my post above that GS was jumping round a 1'6" course which is not the case, as others have said. I just used that height of an example of jumping well beneath your usual level.
 
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nar........... just following rules of comp.
And i do strongly believe why would a Pro bother with this event UNLESS there was a good reason, and do we know reason NO........... so give the girl a break.........

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I am intrigued as to what good reason you think there could be for this?

One thing taking a new horse thats competed PN to a similar level or slightly lower unaffiliated event but the two horses that she took in the 85cm class are both getting DCs at Novice, one has been at that level for almost a year and now is Intermediate; she's had both for years, no bad runs, no long breaks, nothing.

So what reason do you suggest is a valid one for taking 4 experienced competition horses competing regularly at 1m-1.10m to a 65cm and 85cm class - because I am coming up completely blank.
 
Noone has said she was breaking the rules of the competition.
It is about her lack of judgement as to what is acceptable.
Clearly some people think she did nothing wrong, more think she did.
 
i wouldn't cos, surely this comp would be doing job for said horses.

And how many times do i have to point out - On here we DON'T know full story..........

and she was within rules of comp
 
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Surely she must have felt a right prat winning it.... weird
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I know i would have, and im an amateur!

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I would imagine she would be feeling a much bigger prat if she didn't win
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I'm with kick_on on this one
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i wouldn't cos, surely this comp would be doing job for said horses.

And how many times do i have to point out - On here we DON'T know full story..........

and she was within rules of comp

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i know but MPs have been "within the rules" in the expenses row and its hard to argue that what they have done is 'right'. I agree with the above poster that its unsportsman-like- whatever the real reason (and yes i am sure there was one) she should have gone HC IMO- even if it was for a 'run round'/extra experience/whatever...l.
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I can understand why she went, she obviously needed to give her horses an outing before there next event, maybe there wasn't anything else local that had show jumping around 1.10m. The chance to practise your test on grass a huge help when u event.
But I do agree she should have gone HC.
But the rules to state she can compete in the class, and any money back on entries is always helpful.
But as I said I think she should have gone HC.
 
As a rider that competes as a hobby I think she should have gone HC. If she needed to drop the horses down a level or two or three ........
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then fine but go HC
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I work very hard at my riding and take so much satisfaction when getting a rosette that to think a pro rider competing on a horse at a far far higher level enters and wins and comes second just smacks of unfairness. and why not compete under the horses proper names unless she has something to hide? I have no problem with them taking young horses out for the experience but experienced horses who compete at that level should not be doing just over 2' CT
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QR - well if "Carl Hester" managed to set the story straight in Latest News re earmuffs then maybe GS will come on here and give her side of the story
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well i am sure that someone must have made her aware of the argument by now?! there are several posts on here AND a letter in H&H..
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if we keep it going it will get in the top 5 list!
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well i am sure that someone must have made her aware of the argument by now?! there are several posts on here AND a letter in H&H..
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if we keep it going it will get in the top 5 list!
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I think that we might have to question not only her judgement, but at least her sexuality to get her to put the story straight
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I don't think I would have bothered in her shoes, or Carl's for that matter
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Well for my twopence I reckon that she is within the letter of the law but she's not been very sporting. If she wants to take her horses and compete at lower levels fine but she should have gone HC imo.
 
I find it odd that no one has seen it as an opportunity to compete against the pros?
Where else in sport do you get such an opportunity??
If i was 2nd to a pro i take it as a win, if i beat them and get a well done there is no better feeling.
Re HC, most of her horses are owned, the owners will be paying the entry fee and most get a cut of any prize money won, is it fair on them that because they have chosen to send their horse to a pro they do not get a prize??
 
Very interesting series on posts in here and in NL2.

I completely agree 100% with the OP. I work hard to fund my hobby and work hard training my horse and very much look forward to competitions. Everyone wants to complete on a level playing ground.

This is a clear case of unsportsmanship! I go up to my local stables SJ to give my horse a run out, this is however attended by riders on hired out stable horses and I dont go into the Jump offs as I dont want to take rosettes of riders who for them this is there only chance to complete as they dont own horses, also puts me at a major advantage over them as I have competed more, own my own horse and also have come up the levels. I would get no pleasure from taking places over them.

Being second to a pro is fine if your both riding at the level correct for the horse in question, not if it appears to be glory hunting. Did she have bad rounds on all these four horses? Was there a need to gain confidence with them all?

As for to build confidence: look at Rosiefans posts - Rosie (sorry dont know her second name!!) that a girl who needs confidence built up again. Im sure no-one here would object to coming second to Rosie.
 
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spot on MM

as i keep saying, we don't know full story here with horses training and owners etc......

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Kick On - if there is such a problem why are they entered in the NOVICE at Longleat this weekend...That's two weeks after winning a 85cm class. I'm sorry, if there's that much of a problem, you don't enter Longleat Nov, actually, any NOV, within 2wks of your "confidence" run.
 
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I find it odd that no one has seen it as an opportunity to compete against the pros?
Where else in sport do you get such an opportunity??
If i was 2nd to a pro i take it as a win, if i beat them and get a well done there is no better feeling.


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But what if, for an example, the person who got 7th was entering their first competition or thought for maybe the first time they would get a rossette?, only to find they were pushed out the placing by someone who would hold no significance over that rosette?
I know if i was in that class on my horse (an oldie who i don't get to compete much on) i would be quite upset as i know now our opportunity for prizes is quite low. If i wanted to compete against a pro, i'll join BE.
 
Good point!
What people seem to be missing is that it doesn't matter what the reason was, nor that it didn't break the rules.
It was bad form and people don't like it.
I don't believe all 4 needed the competitions and even if they did they could have gone HC.
I also don't believe the prize money was needed, £56 is nothing compared to the cost of running her set up, I would think her entry fees for this year come to more than I earn.
 
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