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The same kind of thing happened to me.... the rspca came out to my horse as the person who reported me said he was very under weight, and only got a handful of feed a day, and that i could not afford him!! The inspector looked at him and said he was ok, and that he was sorry he had to come out, but has to take all calls seriously. my boy is a tb so is lean, his skinny legs couldnt take it if he was any bigger. He was very nice, asked what i fed him, i even showed him a made up feed, he was happy with that. Told him that he had lost some weight due to changing to Alfa oil, which gave him the runs for a few days. The inspector said to me that the person who called did not leave a name, and this is quite often the case when it is purely malicous, he also told me that it would have been someone from the yard as she knew to much about me and my horse. The person in question was a women that was kicked of the yard 2 wks before for causing trouble, who over feeds all of her horses to the point of being very dangerous, not just cos of lami, but because of tempermant, and she is well over feeding a yearling, he is way to big, and another 7 yr old, that the farrier who does out yard still does hers at her new yard said to her that if that mare does not go down with lami it will be a miracle! All her horses/ponies are fed on huge amounts of feed.... weight gain, alfa oil, barley, sugar beet and chaff and blue chip!! plus about 5 sections of hay. It used to take the 2 horses almost an hour to eat there way thru a whole bucket of feed. We all used to tell her and she still carried on, and she still is at her new yard!!

So my question is do i report her?
 
topsandmills - in the case of deliberately overfeeding my horse i would expect nothing more than to be reported! it might be worth speaking to her yard owner and telling them exactly what she's doing and if they refuse to help then maybe reporting her is the only way to shock her into doing something about it.
that is deliberate cruelty and there's no excuse.

although i know exactly where you're coming from - if you report her back will they just take it as revenge or actually realise why you did it? its a tough one. i'm in the exact situation with my ex friend. let me know what you decide, i'd be interested to know how it works out x
 
hi there,

a great and effective way for horses to loose weight, is to put them in a track system. it is referred to paddock paradise on the internet. it is getting electric tape and standeds and makeing a track around the perimeter of the paddock (or how ever you like) about 2 meters wide, with one place being wider so they have room to lie down and roll. the way this works is getting your horse to consistantly move as it would in the wild to find forage. when the grass runs out on your track you can place piles of hay around the track so your horse has to keep moveing if he wants to find food. and the more he walks to more it is helping him to loose weight. you can be very creative when you build your track, putting obsticles in the way, across streams,in and out of trees etc etc. people have had great sucess with this method.

hope this makes sense, and helps you with your horse:)

T, from NZ.
 
topsandmills, I would report her for sure ! However, when you do it, make sure you give very clear details of the over feeding, and why you are concerned, and make sure they get your name. After all, the person who reported you did it anonymously, so it couldn't be her, could it (evil grin), so how could it possibly be viewed as a revenge tip-off

*stops grinning evilly, looks innocent instead*.
 
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hi there,

a great and effective way for horses to loose weight, is to put them in a track system. it is referred to paddock paradise on the internet. it is getting electric tape and standeds and makeing a track around the perimeter of the paddock (or how ever you like) about 2 meters wide, with one place being wider so they have room to lie down and roll. the way this works is getting your horse to consistantly move as it would in the wild to find forage. when the grass runs out on your track you can place piles of hay around the track so your horse has to keep moveing if he wants to find food. and the more he walks to more it is helping him to loose weight. you can be very creative when you build your track, putting obsticles in the way, across streams,in and out of trees etc etc. people have had great sucess with this method.

hope this makes sense, and helps you with your horse:)

T, from NZ.

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wow what a fab idea!!! Very ingenious! Is there any proof that this method encourages them to walk more than say in a normal starvation padock?
Idea: you could ride round the middle on a bike with a bucket of feed... it'd be like lungeing without the line and you'd both get fit
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(joke!).
 
There are several yards now operating the paddock paradise system, and it works brilliantly. There was a great clip on You Tube about it as well, but can't remember what it was called.
 
What a great system!! Leaves you free to make hay and graze horses on the same piece of land all at the same time!
 
Agree, PP is a great idea and suggestion if you can implement it.
I agree with much that has been said on both sides and now the whole story is out have two suggestions. Choose your friends more carefully and have you considered whether your horse has EMS or something causing him to retain his weight against all efforts to remove it? Vets are notoriously slow on the uptake here. Try Yahoo Groups TheMetabolicHorse and browse the advice given there.

I would rather people erred on the side of caution (and reported people) rather than walked on by. They should NOT be removing muzzles from ponies under any circumstances either!
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I have decided today, that i'm going to report her to the RSPCA, as i have found out that the yard she went to after she was kicked of of ours, is also wanting her to go, as both the 2 horses in question, are being uncontrolable, the yearling has crashed thru several post and rail fences, because he can, and the mare, has turned into a rodeo. As she also has 3 shetlands as well, i think that she may just look for a field to rent, as its so costly with so many horses. If she did take them to a field somewhere it would be harder to find where they were and there would be no one to keep an eye on them. So if i do it now, while she is still at the other yard the RSPCA will be able to act. Oh yes i will be leaving my name, what can she do, report me for what - nothing. But not only that if i leave my name the rspca will let me know what happened.

rach
 
Sorry, i know you're angry, but he was only doing his job.

Also i have 3 native ponies who live off fresh air. All 3 go into a 3/4 acre paddock together 24/7 with NOTHING else. You have GOT to remember where these native ponies come from- there is no food, there is no lush grass and there is no hay!

Get him on a small starvation paddock and leave him there with nothing and keep the exercise up.
 
hi,

yes it does make them move more as they know that in a square starvation paddok there is no food, so they will just stand and be depressed. but in a track system, they will keep moveing because they will hope to find food 'around the corner'. espically if you place soakd hay (to get the sugars out) around the track, this will encourage forageing for food.
also, it is unwise to stick your horse in a starvation paddock with absolutly nothing to eat, as a horse is made to graze and haveing nothing in the stomach/ digestive system will do more harm than good.

T, from NZ
 
I can see where you're coming from, its an excellent idea, but most people are on a livery yard and its not available for them to do this.

Yes soaked hay is a very good way of giving them something, but i have to say none of my ponies have EVER been depressed in their starvation paddock and are never standing around, they are always grazing, even though the grass is very short. I wouldn't do it if they were depressed!
 
If someone genuinely had concerns over the welfare of my horse and they didn't know or feel able to speak to me about it then I would be offended by being reported, but, I would rather they do that than just walk away.

I think all too often people behave punitively in reporting owners (It's the world we live in I'm afraid) I think it might be an idea to be unable to report anonymously as, it is often the case the allegations are unfounded. There are a lot of vindictive people out there unfortunately.

I'm afraid if the horse is obese, it is in danger of contracting laminitis and I don't think anyone would deny that is a killer. How would you feel if as a result of not restricting the horse enough it got laminitis and had to be pts. If it was the vet he obviously felt he had a duty of care to his patient to report it.
 
i actually did report a welfare situation anonymously last year, as i wasnt confident that my name wouldnt be let slip, and the horrendous nasty chavs owning the ponies arent to be messed with and i could fully expect a beating/house burnt down etc.

no, im not exagerating either.

so, i did my best for the ponies but no way would i take the chance of my name getting out.
 
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