Gggrrr, my YOs have turned into dictators!!

[Cazzah]

Need a bit of a rant......

Well, the relationship with my yard appears to have hit an all time low recently

. They have not been maintaining facilities and myself and my friend spoke to the YM a couple of weeks ago about the state of the school (not rolled for over a month and resembled the Somme). The next day her father, the yard owner, then screamed at my friend stating she was a trouble causer and that if she wanted a 'proper' school then prices would have to go up (they are already on the high side for the area) or she could s*d off to a 'competition yard'. Strange customer relations tactics

Anyway, have just been to my yard tonight and there is a letter waiting for all the liveries to state that the YOs are not happy with the way people are carrying out the worming programme and will therefore be having a worming day on Saturday. Everyone has to bring their horse into the yard and they must witness it being wormed. Then the letter goes on to state that if this instruction is not complied with they will fetch the horse themselves, worm them and charge us for the service! Really don't want them touching my horse - he can be a handful for a novice - and they really are!!

The yard is predominantly DIY and everyone seems to take reasonable care of their horses - regular poo picks, vet visits etc and as far as I am aware no-one has not adhered to the worming programme so I am at a bit of a loss to see why the need for the nanny state?

So, a couple of questions:

Am I over-reacting?

Is it time to move?!

Biccies and hot chocolate for reading - unfortunately no wine for me as am pregnant!!

 

[samstar]

Time to move

 

[Peacelily]

yup move....the buggars...its such a shame that some yards just aren't nice places to be...

 

[Gingerwitch]

Move - if its this bad now, just wait for the winter.....you can see if coming (well I can) eg:-
no turn out (stupid horses churn up their own grass)
no washing off legs or soaking hay - "you liveries dont know how much the bills are!!!!
Cant you do your jobs earlier - do you know how much we spend on the electric???

yadda yadda yadda

 

[mazziek]

OMG!!! i got thought my yo was bad, but urs are unreal! i would be right to be annoyed your paying for a service. Also re: worming they cant force you to it all on one day! although it has been suggested worming all the horses on the same day will benefit so maybe that the angle they are taking?
I def would not think you were over reacting, i think some YO like to flex a bit f muscle now and then to remind themselves it is their yard and they can do what ever they want.
If there is somewhre nicer near by then yea id be thinking bout moving, does ur friend wnat t move? Have you told ur friend you might like to move?
Good luck!!!

 

[Cliqmo]

They sound a bit high-stress! Not what you need when you're preggers! I say look for alternatives

 

[Cazzah]

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yup move....the buggars...its such a shame that some yards just aren't nice places to be...

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It's really annoying because although they are a bit clueless it was friendly and I was left to get on with things - and its not as though I'm a numpty - have had horses from the age of 2 and I'm 31

mmmm, wanders off to google 'livery yards/fields to rent doncaster".......

 

[gails]

sounds all a bit odd to me. Has someone made a bigger complaint?

As samstar has said, me thinks it is time to move

 

[Cazzah]

Well, it looks as though they are losing at least five - me and two friends with five horses between us.....that's so far - the letters have just gone out tonight....

 

[nuffield]

time to move,definately.

 

[emma69]

Presumably then everyone has to keep their horses stabled? Because there is naff all point in worming and then turning them out into the field!

 

[Damnation]

Move. I wouldn't be putting up with that.

 

[MrsMozart]

Move.

If I'd wormed my horses, which I did not so long ago, and someone said they were going to force me to have then done again, I would have them off the yard that day, and moved very shortly after.

 

[Cazzah]

Well thats another thing MrsM - he was wormed (in accordance with their blummin programme) less than a month ago?? Surely no horse needs that much worming?! And I know for a fact that they have never had a worm count done so unsure why the mad intensive programme?!

 

[Slinkyunicorn]

Move - I would not be prepared to give my horse another dose of wormer so quickly - and they wonder why they get resistance to wormers......

Have a Magnum......

 

[somethingorother]

Move move move. Especially if prices are high for the area and the school is rubbish. There should be tests of YO's. One of which being a sanity test, the others being one on business and horsey knowledge.

Hope you find somewhere else nice, good luck.

 

[Spudlet]

Where I work we don't do regular worming - we do worm counts and worming as and when instead. More cost effective and avoids wormer resistance.

Time to move before the yard gets covered in super-worms!!!

 

[MrsMozart]

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Well thats another thing MrsM - he was wormed (in accordance with their blummin programme) less than a month ago?? Surely no horse needs that much worming?! And I know for a fact that they have never had a worm count done so unsure why the mad intensive programme?!

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No, they don't! Check it with the worming manufacturer and your vet.

This sort of thing makes me so mad! I hate being dictated to at the best of times, but when someone is trying to force me to do something that I consider detrimental to my horses...

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[alwaysbroke]

Move! dont stay anywhere you are not happy, your horse is your hobby and shouldnt cause extra stress.

 

[trundle]

My YO took against my loan horse from the moment she arrived (horse has never put a foot wrong), and wouldnt say a nice word about her. She constantly criticised my horse from the moment i first got on her, to the point where i really didnt want to ride at all. Granted, i'm not the most expert rider in the world, and I am a novice owner- but i always stick my hand up and ask for help if I need it, plus I am 36 years old and don't expect to be treated or spoken to like an ignorant naughty child.

Super_Kat and i promptly upped sticks, and shifted our four horses (3 of hers and 1 of mine) to a lovely yard with a sane owner, fantastic facilities and lower livery bills.

 

[helly86]

Move!!! My old yard was owned by a nut job who was nice enough at first but the got to be the biggest wierdo on the planet... as someone else said, if it's bad now-just wait for the winter!!!!!
P.S. now at lovely yard, happy horses and happy owners(altho there isn't a school and we're paying the same (if not £2 more) per week than yards with 2 schools) slight grumble, but hey ho
xx

 

[kendra2705]

just ask the idiots if they know the meaning of D I Y and then bugger off to somewhere sane, pisses me off people like this the world is going mad x

 

[Shilasdair]

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Presumably then everyone has to keep their horses stabled? Because there is naff all point in worming and then turning them out into the field!

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Why not? Surely you don't still believe that wormers make the horse expel live worms, or viable eggs?

To the OP - I'd move, and as quickly as I could.
S

 

[tasel]

Time to move!!!

Would NEVER go to a yard where the YM/YO have ZERO competence whatsoever...

 

[Tnavas]

Not very good on the PR!

Many yards have a worming day especially if horses are all turned out together. TBH it is a good idea..at least you all know that yoour own horse is safe from parasites.

Worked for a top trainer who religiously wormed the horses 6 weekly. However he would worm each 6 weeks from their previous worming so that meant that wormed horses would go out in paddocks that had been grazed by horses due to be wormed. Resulting in two 2yr olds brought in for grazing having so many paradites that the dungs walked to the wheelbarrow for mucking out.

 

[Divasmum]

This is meant to be your hobby and enjoyable. Start looking at other yards!

 

[Kenzo]

Can't you suggest to the YO's that although you all understand the need for a good worming programme yada yada yada... that it would make more sense and money better well spent if you all had a worm count done? to see if the current worming programme is doing it's job, if there that bothered about it then surely that would be more counter productive and safer all round for both them and the liveries.

If you all talk to the YO's rather than just you or a friend (so then you don't get branded a trouble causer etc) and talk about how things have changed and that everyone is thought it was a good friendly yard and now its all chanign and that there going to loose liveries?

I'd at least give it a shot, you having nothing to loose if your going to move anyway, maybe the YO's just need to hear a few home truths from the yard as whole to make them realise that their being unreasonable and driving people away?

Good Luck

and hope things work out anyway.

 

[BBH]

Time to move. YO's and YM's have to understand they are providing a service and as long as clients aren't asking anything silly they should accommodate their wishes.You were only asking them to maintain facilities, not unreasonable.

As for the worming it all sounds a bit tit for tat and big brotherish to me.

 

[LankyDoodle]

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Need a bit of a rant......

Well, the relationship with my yard appears to have hit an all time low recently

. They have not been maintaining facilities and myself and my friend spoke to the YM a couple of weeks ago about the state of the school (not rolled for over a month and resembled the Somme). The next day her father, the yard owner, then screamed at my friend stating she was a trouble causer and that if she wanted a 'proper' school then prices would have to go up (they are already on the high side for the area) or she could s*d off to a 'competition yard'. Strange customer relations tactics

<font color="blue"> This is ridiculous.</font>

Anyway, have just been to my yard tonight and there is a letter waiting for all the liveries to state that the YOs are not happy with the way people are carrying out the worming programme and will therefore be having a worming day on Saturday. Everyone has to bring their horse into the yard and they must witness it being wormed. Then the letter goes on to state that if this instruction is not complied with they will fetch the horse themselves, worm them and charge us for the service! Really don't want them touching my horse - he can be a handful for a novice - and they really are!!

<font color="blue"> This is not ridiculous. Lots of yards have worming programmes which are blanket across the whole yard (like yours) and it is important that all the horses are done at the same time; this is so that the YO/YM can be sure that every horse is wormed properly and regularly so that their grazing remains safe for all horses on the yard (at my last yard, horses were kept in for 2 days after worming, and were all done at the same time). I don't really like blanket worming programmes because there are certain wormers (Panacur) I will NOT use, but at my last yard, Panacur was predominant. However, I can understand the need for them, even on DIY yards. I think the main issue here, is the way in which the YO is making you carry out the worming; rather than introducing it as a new initiative for the yard, they are saying 'do it or we will' in what sounds like an aggressive way. I can understand if they are angry that people are not worming to their specific programme, though. It might be DIY, but it is their yard. If your horse has already been wormed then you should not have to do it again. It is upto them, if they are running a worming programme, to orchestrate it properly so that everyone is done on the same day!

Part of the reason I moved to my own place after the last yard I was on for 4 months, was because I was sick of being dictated to.</font>

The yard is predominantly DIY and everyone seems to take reasonable care of their horses - regular poo picks, vet visits etc and as far as I am aware no-one has not adhered to the worming programme so I am at a bit of a loss to see why the need for the nanny state?

So, a couple of questions:

Am I over-reacting?
<font color="blue">I don't think you are. I would be unhappy if I was spoken to aggressively or received an aggressively toned letter from the YO; however, I do agree that they should have a worming day so that those that are incapable of sticking to the programme by themselves do do it. </font>

Is it time to move?!
<font color="blue">If you are unhappy there, move now. Life is too short. I was at a yard 6 years, moved due to a personal problem to another yard last September, there 9 weeks and ended up moving back to a yard we were at years ago. We were there 4 months and then we moved to our current rented place where we are by ourselves. I can honestly say, after 10 weeks being at this yard, I am now very happy. The only thing I would change is to have my own proper school (instead of grass or hacking to one) and some company now and then. </font>

Biccies and hot chocolate for reading - unfortunately no wine for me as am pregnant!!

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[LankyDoodle]

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Move.

If I'd wormed my horses, which I did not so long ago, and someone said they were going to force me to have then done again, I would have them off the yard that day, and moved very shortly after.

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I do agree with this. If you have already wormed then you should not have to again until it is due.