GIRTH PRESSURES AND ITS EFFECT ON EQUINE LOCOMOTION

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Previously it has been assumed that the highest pressures beneath the girth are localised to the sternum. From a study we did before the London 2012 Olympics, using an electronic pressure mat positioned beneath the girth combined with motion capture, we quantified the effect that girth fit and design has on grith pressures and locomotion (1). In that study we demonstrated that, contrary to popular belief, areas of high pressures were localised behind the elbow and not on the sternum.
We observed areas of high pressure beneath girths in dressage, jumping and event horses, across all gaits (walk, trot & canter) (1) and more recently we have demonstrated the areas of high pressures in racehorses galloping occurs in the same region as previously described, behind the elbows. When girth pressures were reduced with girth modifications, the horses gait altered across all disciplines, highlighting the effect that girth pressures can have on locomotion.
We must not underestimate the effect that girth fit and design can have on locomotion. A girth that causes high pressures will cause the horse to seek a compensatory strategy to alleviate the discomfort caused, in this case by the girth. It should be noted that the areas of high pressure occurred every stride, therefore in a schooling session, in a girth which is poorly designed and or doesn’t fit, the horse is experiencing areas of high pressure behind the elbows every stride.

Some of the take home messages:

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Ensure the girth buckles are up as high as possible - away from the sensitive areas behind the elbows
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If using a martingale or training aid, which goes around the girth, caution should be taken as you will create a ridge of pressure on the sternum. Consider using a girth which has the girth attachment on the outside of the girth.
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Anatomically shaped girths with medical grade closed cell foam are preferred as they do not deform and help to reduce girth pressures
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Make sure the inside of the grith does not have cracks
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Ensure that girth buckles (left and right) are equal +- one hole
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Make sure that the girth is fitted in relation to the horse’s anatomy

Since this study, there are a lot of girths on the market which claim to be pressure relieving and or allow “freedom”. Whilst I am supportive of new designs for the good of the horse, users must be cautious over such claims which are not supported by evidence and particularly look at the fit and design of the girth, as from this study, girth fit and design must not be underestimated.
Please share to raise awareness of girth fit.
Hope the above is of interest.

Kind Regards

Dr Russell MacKechnie-Guire

Www.centaurbiomechanics.co.uk

1) Murray R, Guire R, Fisher M, Fairfax V. Girth pressure measurements reveal high peak pressures that can be avoided using an alternative girth design that also results in increased limb protraction and flexion in the swing phase. Vet J. 2013;198(1):92-7.

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Thank you for that Centaur. I attended a BHS training session a few years ago you were at and asked the question of girth length and got the answer you have given here. Ever since, I have (sometimes much to my own irritation as it makes them much more difficult to do up tighter when in the saddle !) fitted short girths with the buckle as close to the bottom of the flap as they will go.

It surprises me that this information isn't better known, and how few people do it, even people who do know the recommendation.
 

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I've just switched to an anatomical girth when changing size and the girth is well made, well padded and very soft. The change in the horses way of going was obvious. He clearly feels more comfortable and confident in it. (He's very sensitive to the riders balance)
 

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My first dressage saddle (many decades ago) had short girth straps and needed a long girth. Photographs of the top riders of that era showed them using similar set ups.

Is there any advantage to the horse with having short girths and long straps, or would long girths be better?
 

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I still feel a little sorry for my totally spherical Dartmoor stallion. The only way to keep his saddle on is to use a humane girth and ratchet the thing up as tight as you physically can. Even then if the rider is unbalanced (famously my daughter turning around in the saddle to chatter in trot), they end up under his belly. Lucky he is short, because you have to mount whilst holding your off-side stirrup down.
He goes well enough, but I make no wonder he likes being ridden bareback!
 

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My first dressage saddle (many decades ago) had short girth straps and needed a long girth. Photographs of the top riders of that era showed them using similar set ups.

Is there any advantage to the horse with having short girths and long straps, or would long girths be better?

Not really no, except that having the rider sit and ride as well as possible can be transformative, whether this would ever fall into that category I would probably doubt. The short girth is to keep the buckles away from under the rider's leg, there is no direct benefit to the horse.

I still feel a little sorry for my totally spherical Dartmoor stallion. The only way to keep his saddle on is to use a humane girth and ratchet the thing up as tight as you physically can. Even then if the rider is unbalanced (famously my daughter turning around in the saddle to chatter in trot), they end up under his belly. Lucky he is short, because you have to mount whilst holding your off-side stirrup down.
He goes well enough, but I make no wonder he likes being ridden bareback!

The right saddle should not need girthing that tight, and human girths not only are dangerous to the extent that the Pony Club don't allow them, but place a lot of pressure on the D ring on a very sensitive part of the ribcage. I know they're not easy to fit saddles to, but it is possible even on "spherical" ponies.
 

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The right saddle should not need girthing that tight, and human girths not only are dangerous to the extent that the Pony Club don't allow them, but place a lot of pressure on the D ring on a very sensitive part of the ribcage.

I'm aware of the safety implications of the humane girth. In practice, since we're not tackling a challenging xc course or anything, if a girth billet comes adrift, the rider will feel the saddle shift and take a look. They are just so useful for little ponies. Plus, falling off isn't the end of the world. He's 12.2!

On the saddle fit I agree in principle. In practice I spent 20 years looking for the XXW saddle that might fit him, simply to be able to get rid of an embarrassing cheapo foreign thing. I have pretty much given up now. Heading into his mid-twenties now, so surely at some point his back will drop and he'll need a different saddle anyway!
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I'm aware of the safety implications of the humane girth. In practice, since we're not tackling a challenging xc course or anything, if a girth billet comes adrift, the rider will feel the saddle shift and take a look. They are just so useful for little ponies. Plus, falling off isn't the end of the world. He's 12.2!

On the saddle fit I agree in principle. In practice I spent 20 years looking for the XXW saddle that might fit him, simply to be able to get rid of an embarrassing cheapo foreign thing. I have pretty much given up now. Heading into his mid-twenties now, so surely at some point his back will drop and he'll need a different saddle anyway!

If the girth comes undone it will loosen by about 8 inches, she'll be on the floor before she can check it, especially in the circumstances you describe. The pressure on the ribcage is an issue and perhaps more so on round ponies.

There are saddles that may work now and as he gets older, and the better the saddle the less likely his back is to drop. He's also almost certainly wider than XXW looking at the photo.

https://www.facebook.com/stephaniebloom.saddlefitter/photos/a.213486365366635/2170620952986490 - this looks like a 9 fit, XXXXXW but was fitted more like a XXXXW/XXXW, very wide horses also tend to be very soft (even if you can't feel it it shows up in the fitting), which distorts things.

I know we've discussed pony saddles before, and this is a general point, but round ponies don't deserve any less comfort than big horses. And there are saddles out there, there have been wide fit specialist saddles for 25 years or so now, but they're smaller companies, don't have massive marketing budgets, aren't fitted by local saddle fitters, and generally callouts are pricier as the fitters have to cover larger areas. And the best brands are hard to come by second hand as they're held onto, and snapped up when they are for sale.
 

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Interested to hear other's thoughts on the anatomical girths. I would really like a Prolite but unsure whether they are worth the money. I have tried one on, it feels very comfy to touch, but it looked okay on one side and a bit strange on the other! Perhaps a sizing issue.
 

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Just followed your link SB - yes that's the shape - the same at both ends, and spherical!
Both these photos are pretty old now; His very, very wide fit saddle, and the 'does my bum look big in this' shot.

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Interested to hear other's thoughts on the anatomical girths. I would really like a Prolite but unsure whether they are worth the money. I have tried one on, it feels very comfy to touch, but it looked okay on one side and a bit strange on the other! Perhaps a sizing issue.

I've had both the prolite and Fairfax girths and have liked both but I have one pony that anatomical shaped girths just didnt work for. Of the 3 that have worn them I do think they helped.

I have a prolite dressage girth at present on a treeless saddle. It certainly is better than the straight one she had before but I find it really hard to like the feel of the prolite. It warms up beautifully but when cold feels quite hard and I was convinced it was going to cause rubs, however it doesn't and as I said it warms up and is very malleable, is easy to clean, and never moves. I'm just a bit stuck on the idea that things touching horse should be of natural fibre or leather/sheepskin ?
 

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Interested to hear other's thoughts on the anatomical girths. I would really like a Prolite but unsure whether they are worth the money. I have tried one on, it feels very comfy to touch, but it looked okay on one side and a bit strange on the other! Perhaps a sizing issue.

They work for some, not for others, we have a way to go until we understand exactly why some horses get on with some girths and others don't, for example the way I fit I barely ever used to use an anatomical girth for a forward girth groove, and I mostly only use them more now as the company I fit for supplies them as standard and another more budget-friendly girth that I recommend (Harry Dabbs waffle, elastic both ends) is shaped.

Just followed your link SB - yes that's the shape - the same at both ends, and spherical!
Both these photos are pretty old now; His very, very wide fit saddle, and the 'does my bum look big in this' shot.

This happened to be a big cob but so often it's the tinies, Darties included, that can be amongst the widest. Hate to say it, but that saddle's on the shoulder :cool:
 

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Interested to hear other's thoughts on the anatomical girths. I would really like a Prolite but unsure whether they are worth the money. I have tried one on, it feels very comfy to touch, but it looked okay on one side and a bit strange on the other! Perhaps a sizing issue.

I have a prolite short girth on the recommendation of my saddle fitter. I've found they are a bit like marmite. Personally my mare quite likes it, I tend to put a sheepskin cover on it over winter when she is clipped (thin warmblood skin) and that does the trick. I've found it allows for more shoulder movement than other standard short girths.
 

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Another prolite fan here! Mine has done about 3 years now and no signs of wear and tear etc. Mare has never shown any signs that it's uncomfortable in any way. I much prefer it to the Fairfax as it's so much lighter in weight!
 

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Interested to hear other's thoughts on the anatomical girths. I would really like a Prolite but unsure whether they are worth the money. I have tried one on, it feels very comfy to touch, but it looked okay on one side and a bit strange on the other! Perhaps a sizing issue.
My physio swears by it. Never tried it tho
 
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