Giving notice to livery yard

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Deltic Blue

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Following on my my earlier thread:
http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?732686-Would-you-leave-Help!

All being well, I am going to move back to my old yard, as my YO has said she'll happily have me back, and we're going to work on Izzy's tenseness in the indoor school.
We are taking her over there tomorrow with the rider who's been bringing her back into work for me, to give her a walk out on the quiet lanes there and then go in the school to see if she thinks it's something we can easily work on to get her to relax a bit more in there.

My main concern is giving my notice to my current yard. I've never really had to give formal notice before, as my previous YO was happy with me just telling her in person that I'll be leaving after a month.

What sort of thing should I put in my notice? I would ideally not like to get on the wrong side of her, and leave on a relative good note if possible. But I am considering moving her before the end of the notice and just sucking it up and paying for 2 livery yard bills.

Thanks :)
 
I think you should suck it up and pay for 2 livery yard bills for a month, it will save you a lot of heartache and misery and in the grand scheme of life, one month's livery is peanuts.

I would just keep it very short and factual. Tell her that from x date you're giving a month's notice as required in your contract, you could mention the amount that you will pay, or maybe not, I don't know. You may also want to say you will most likely leave before the month is up, thank her for having you and wish her all the best.
 
Just gave notice (via text! as you never see yard owner, nor have they given us email address!!) and put that we would be moving our horse to a new livery yard so this was formal notice on whatever day. I put that if they needed it in writing let us know, and we would let them know the date we were actually moving at a later time. Keep it brief, there is no reason to explain yourself, but equally don't be rude in case you are ever forced to go back.

And we are having to suck it up and pay two livery bills as we are so desperate to move off the yard. Not ideal but hopefully for the best.
Good luck!!
 
I've made the decision to hand my notice in on the day I'm leaving and if YO wants to contact me for what I owe, I will be leaving all my contact details on the notice.

How would you go about wording it so I can say, this is my months notice, however I am leaving today?
 
Deltic Blue said:
I've made the decision to hand my notice in on the day I'm leaving and if YO wants to contact me for what I owe, I will be leaving all my contact details on the notice.

How would you go about wording it so I can say, this is my months notice, however I am leaving today?
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I think that's probably the worst way to do it if you want to leave on good'ish terms. you shouldnt wait for them to chase you for what you owe you need to pay it up front


If you plan on leaving earlier i would write a brief letter saying;

'Please accept this as my 1 months notice to terminate livery at xxxx yard. I enclose payment for the remaining livery up untill xx date. Despite this i will be moving the horse on xx date. Please contact me on 07xxxxx if neccesary'

give it to her next time you see her and its done.

Its not easy giving notice even if you are having problems but its something that needs to be done!
 
LeannePip said:
I think that's probably the worst way to do it if you want to leave on good'ish terms. you shouldnt wait for them to chase you for what you owe you need to pay it up front


If you plan on leaving earlier i would write a brief letter saying;

'Please accept this as my 1 months notice to terminate livery at xxxx yard. I enclose payment for the remaining livery up untill xx date. Despite this i will be moving the horse on xx date. Please contact me on 07xxxxx if neccesary'

give it to her next time you see her and its done.

Its not easy giving notice even if you are having problems but its something that needs to be done!
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I agree it isn't the best way to do things, but I just don't feel like I can do it any other way.

I think we will enclose the money as you've suggested so I can just cut ties, go and not look back!
I left my last yard on good terms, got my YO a bottle of wine, chocs and a card as she is lovely and I wanted to go on good terms in case I had to go back, which I am now doing.
But at this yard, I will not be going back under any circumstances.

So I think I will work out what I owe and enclose it in the notice letter.

Thank you :)
 
Deltic Blue said:
I've made the decision to hand my notice in on the day I'm leaving and if YO wants to contact me for what I owe, I will be leaving all my contact details on the notice.

How would you go about wording it so I can say, this is my months notice, however I am leaving today?
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Good luck but that puts you in the wrong and the horse world is a small one you want to hope the two yard owners dont communicate as around here all the yard owners know each other and compare notes . It is not up to the YO to contact you to get what you owe . You are in all intents and purposes walking out without having the balls to confront the situation. Good job she never told you just to leave with immediate effect isnt it im sure you would be shouting about the injustice.
 
My advice in all life situations is to try to leave on good terms. What goes around comes around and you never know when your path might cross with someone in the future.

Did you pay a deposit when you moved to the yard? If so, include that as part of your notice payment but make it clear in your notice letter. Make sure you properly calculate your notice period payment - if you don't you may find you are getting talked about in the horsey circles.

Giving notice isn't as hard as it seems once it is done.
 
popsdosh said:
Good luck but that puts you in the wrong and the horse world is a small one you want to hope the two yard owners dont communicate as around here all the yard owners know each other and compare notes . It is not up to the YO to contact you to get what you owe . You are in all intents and purposes walking out without having the balls to confront the situation. Good job she never told you just to leave with immediate effect isnt it im sure you would be shouting about the injustice.
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I am more than happy to pay the remaining livery if you read my most recent reply, I will be enclosing it in the notice.

I do not wish to confront the situation as it will just make things worse, hence why I am just paying my way and leaving.
 
Handingher a pre written letter shouldnt be too hard, or even post it through her door, leave it on her desk or pinned to her horses stable but i really wouldn't just up and leave one day. The horsey world is a very small place and things like that will travel round other yard owners, who may not be pleased to have you in the future if they hear you have just upped and left a previous yard.

I've read your post about why you are leaving and whilst its not nice when there's an atmosphere, she is not putting you or your horse at risk so its not worth doing a moonlight flit.

Puts some brave pants on, hand her the letter and move a couple of days later - you can do it! :)
 
LeannePip said:
Handingher a pre written letter shouldnt be too hard, or even post it through her door, leave it on her desk or pinned to her horses stable but i really wouldn't just up and leave one day. The horsey world is a very small place and things like that will travel round other yard owners, who may not be pleased to have you in the future if they hear you have just upped and left a previous yard.

I've read your post about why you are leaving and whilst its not nice when there's an atmosphere, she is not putting you or your horse at risk so its not worth doing a moonlight flit.

Puts some brave pants on, hand her the letter and move a couple of days later - you can do it! :)
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This was my original plan to give her my notice today and go on Saturday, but my OH and father both think I should have all of my things packed away before I give it to her.

I don't think she's the type to do anything malicious like that at all, hence why I'd like to give her a couple of days.
I'll push my point a bit more with OH and give her the notice today.
 
I always give a months written notice and expect to pay for it even if I leave beforehand. I leave everything as I would wish to find it (Jays Fluid the stable etc.), thank them and say good-bye to my fellow liveries. I do the same even if I hate the place and YO; I'd much rather be on moral high ground than rolling about with them in the gutter.
 
pansymouse said:
I always give a months written notice and expect to pay for it even if I leave beforehand. I leave everything as I would wish to find it (Jays Fluid the stable etc.), thank them and say good-bye to my fellow liveries. I do the same even if I hate the place and YO; I'd much rather be on moral high ground than rolling about with them in the gutter.
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I'm going to give the YO my notice today, confirm she will still get the full amount paid as I pay her by standing order every month, and leave everything as I found it.
I'm going to be sad to leave my fellow liveries as they have been nothing but helpful and supportive to me, all are lovely people whom I will miss, but I can't relax at a yard where I don't feel like I can do anything right with my horse.
 
Given the breakdown in the relationship you may well find the YO will accept your notice with a smile. I don't mean that in a nasty way but YO dont generally like an atmosphere either.
 
You are paying in full for the month after you have left then there should be no problem at all. You can say the facilities & people are lovely but unfortunately your mare isn't settling very well after the box rest and that you were unaware of some of the rules and, despite appreciating that these rules are there for a purpose, unfortunately these don't suit your circumstances (ie you wish to use your own instructor) so taking everything into consideration you have decided that it would be better for you to relocate.
 
Having read how horrid she has been I'd do what you suggested, box everything up, empty the stable hand the notice in and drive off the yard. Your old YO is happy to have you back so stuff this one who is being nothing but horrid.

I don't understand why people expect you to be polite to @$$h0les just because they happen to own a livery yard. Bad service and attitudes towards customers isn't acceptable, neither is talking down to people who are your customers. Yes people talk and I'm sure they do but what they don't talk about is their own sins and why a person left the way they did.

I know there are a few YOs on here who will be offended but I'm sure you don't talk down to or treat your liveries like the dog crap on your shoes. Op serve notice and leave in the same breath, she's getting her money, which bring honest I wouldn't be giving her, so she has no reason to bad mouth you.
 
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