Global Herbs for allergic horse

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Still battling with unknown allergy on my horse. Anyone had success using any GH products for itchy lumps?
 
I have used NAF detox successfully on strange skin issues, some of the GH products such as the sweet itch one are very unpalatable, I binned some I tried.
 
Omg I like have the same problem . Its been off & on for about 4 years ! Just when I think ive solved it he breaks out in lumps again . Im currently using gh immune+ was working great untill today hes now had another break out ... just at my wits end now
 
What breed is your horse ? I have a tb ... had him for 8 years .. its just so strange & there is just no pattern to the lump break out ... my vets are useless they just want me to keep him on steroids I paid for blood test & nothing showed up . Pm me if you like would be interested to here your story .
 
If the horse has an unknown allergy then I can't imagine giving him a supplement, therefore adding something new to his diet, is going to help. Global Herbs will not tell you what is in their supplements so you have no idea what you are giving to him. There could be something in there he is sensitive to, or downright allergic to.

My last horse developed sudden hives and my vet's advice was simply to cut out everything but hay and grass, then slowly add hard feed back in to his diet until we could work out what the cause was. It's certainly not a good idea to start increasing the number of possible allergen sources by giving him a supplement - it took me ages to get any info out of GH when I considered feeding one of their potions, and there were so many ingredients that it made it impossible to work out what everything was.
 
I have tried all that . My horse spent 4 weeks on box rest with a totally gutted stable with paper lined walls & paper bedding nothing but hay ( Timothy blend ) & alfa a oil vets recommendations ... he still broke out in lumps he was also on predindale 5 tablets ( steroids ) ... vets put it down to an environment allergie . ? They told me to move yards ! Hes been at the same yard for 8 years . That is why I have turned to alternative products .
 
The vets did blood tests , they suggested to send him to Liverpool university but the costs was astronomical . My insurance company refused to pay for him to go I tried to contact the university myself but no body I spoke to could help .... so ive had the lot even down to a horse communicator .. lol really I would try just about anything . Sometimes we go months even years with no lumps then all of a sudden for no apparent reason he will break out .it really gets so frustrating ..
 
What are you feeding? Mine was allergic to alfalfa, which is in nearly every prepared horse feed. I assume you've done the thing of cutting everything out of his diet then slowly reintroducing things to see what happens? And changing hay supply, in case there's something in your hay he can't tolerate? If it's only been happening since you've been at a particular yard then moving yards isn't a totally stupid idea - if you've tried everything dietary and it's still happening then it suggests it's something in the environment. You could try keeping a diary of when it happens and what (if anything) in the environment had changed... ie, it's started now, when the rapeseed is coming into flower so maybe it could be RS pollen. Or it happens when the farmers start cutting something in particular, so it's allergy to that.

But when you have no idea what's causing it, I really can't see that introducing a supplement with "secret" ingredients in will help - I've said it already but the fact Global Herbs are so shady about what's in their stuff concerns me. I want to know what I'm feeding and if you have a horse with allergies you simply can't go around adding random supplements willy nilly. When I finally managed to get out of GH what was in Restore, I found it was something like 30 different compounds. You can never know if any single one will be a problem for your horse, never mind any possible effect of them working with or against each other.
 
Thanks for your advice , what I meant is ive owned him 8 years & he's been on the same yard ever since . I have been through all the feed procedure cut out alfa a all together . Hes on ready grass & allen & page calm and condition . Supplements think pink & gh immune + . All of which I did very slowly one at a time etc . It happens all different times of the year & like I said sometimes hes clear for ages . I spoke to trc today they we're veru helpful & said they had a similar tb who was sent away for allergy testing . She said it was a waste of time & still do not no the cause . She did advise to feed grass nuts the simplest ones I can find then just add soya oil for a bit more energy ? They put there horse down to protein ? What do you think ?
 
My friends horse was like this last year .It went on for weeks but never got any worse and they never did find the cause of it .The horses whole body was covered where the rug would be.
 
I spent £4000 trying to find out what made one of my horses very itchy. The lumps were were somtimes crusty and obviously intensely itchy. At one point he was on 60 steriod tablets a day.

He was allergy tested and found to be senstive to wheat, barley, maize, horse chestnut trees and dogs. (the first horse that Andy Durham from Liphook Equine Hospital has come across that is allergic to dogs).

I cleaned his stable including hoovering up the spider webs, whole new bed, hot washed rugs in antimicrobal detergent. Fed nothing but soaked hay and grass, slowly introduced feeds etc.

I still have no idea what the cause was. Now he is fed a totally straight diet with no additives, molasses etc. However the biggest key is to keep him cool. Forget the toasty warm ears, aim for cool!

I also find washing off sweat, just with plain cold water or lavender wash helps too.
 
Perissa said:
I still have no idea what the cause was. Now he is fed a totally straight diet with no additives, molasses etc. However the biggest key is to keep him cool. Forget the toasty warm ears, aim for cool!

I also find washing off sweat, just with plain cold water or lavender wash helps too.
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Yes, I found both of these v important with mine who had random allergies. His were mostly food intolerance (alfalfa) but also would come up in hives if he got too hot, or if sweat wasn't washed off properly. Even after a simple hack, I still had to wash his girth area properly otherwise he'd go lumpy. When rugged he needed to feel cool underneath otherwise would come up in heat lumps which took ages to go away.

OP - make sure all of your rugs are clean and that it isn't something like the detergent used to wash them, making him itchy. Wash the horse down really well after every ride. I found the best thing to be baby shampoo (Johnson's proper stuff, not supermarket own brand). Anything like tea tree was, IME, far too harsh. He had an intensive course of Malaseb which helped, and I would bathe him periodically in either that or Dermoline.
 
chestnut cob said:
Yes, I found both of these v important with mine who had random allergies. His were mostly food intolerance (alfalfa) but also would come up in hives if he got too hot, or if sweat wasn't washed off properly. Even after a simple hack, I still had to wash his girth area properly otherwise he'd go lumpy. When rugged he needed to feel cool underneath otherwise would come up in heat lumps which took ages to go away.

OP - make sure all of your rugs are clean and that it isn't something like the detergent used to wash them, making him itchy. Wash the horse down really well after every ride. I found the best thing to be baby shampoo (Johnson's proper stuff, not supermarket own brand). Anything like tea tree was, IME, far too harsh. He had an intensive course of Malaseb which helped, and I would bathe him periodically in either that or Dermoline.
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Tea tree shampoo brings my boy out in hives. I stopped using baby shampoo though on advice from the vet. Apparently it isn't the correct PH. I use Malaseb if he is itchy or Gallop Medicated at other times.

It is a strange business because my horse is fine with alfalfa.
 
pistolpete said:
Still battling with unknown allergy on my horse. Anyone had success using any GH products for itchy lumps?
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I had TB horses for many years ,for hives ect I was told by head lad in New Market to give GLAUBER SALTS it really does work, I am not sure how to do links so if you just type in on net Glauber Salt for horses there is a lots of info
I used to dissolve a small packet in hot water and then top up bucket with cold ,if I put 2 buckets in stable the horses always drank the salt one first .
I hope this helps.
 
I used GH restore after my TB came out in hives it was his rugs as got them washed put professionally really for the winter and all of a sudden he had lumps all over his body took me 3 weeks to figure out the source as I had to strip everything back one thing at a time , food , bedding etc so now his rugs must be washed in no bio stuff... Then last week I ran out of my normal mix so brought a bag of cool mix and boom hives again (sensitive boy) but I knew that was the only thing I changed so within 5 days they had all gone...

Global Herbs stuff was fab but it did just mask his 1st lot of hives thou... Good luck I hope u find the course of the lumps x
 
Google silverlining herbs and contact them if you want to go down the herb route. They have readymade mixed supplements and can do a totally bespoke mix too. I know of several people who have used them with success.

I also hate the fact GH refuse to list ingredients, what are they trying to hide?
 
I have posted the 'adding 2 tablespoons of salt' daily to your horses diet before. It worked for a friend's severely allergic horse (she had spent > £2k on vet bills in 18 months) - her horse's itchy allergy cleared up in 2 weeks. It also worked for another poster on here whose share ride had severe itching. So here is the link which explains why adding salt to the feed can cure your horse of allergies (a salt lick is NOT suffice).. It's a cheap thing to try - so I would say why not try it?

http://www.calmhealthyhorses.com/perip/allergy.html
 
I've been feeding salt to my itchy horse for 2 weeks now. She's been itching for over a year, sometimes a little, sometimes a lot, possibly from the antibiotic she was on. The salt hasn't stopped her itching yet and she has a few new spots on her neck today, but the salt does seem to have stopped her eating soil/mud!
 
Silverfire said:
I've been feeding salt to my itchy horse for 2 weeks now. She's been itching for over a year, sometimes a little, sometimes a lot, possibly from the antibiotic she was on. The salt hasn't stopped her itching yet and she has a few new spots on her neck today, but the salt does seem to have stopped her eating soil/mud!
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It didn't work for my itchy mare either, but a month on Nicotinamide has really made a difference. Finally no more frantic itching. It was driving me nuts trying to help her, she had so many sores and mane and tail rubbed out. I kept bathing her in insecticide shampoo and medicated shampoo and using fly replellant and fly rugs - very frustrating for both her and I.
 
YasandCrystal said:
It didn't work for my itchy mare either, but a month on Nicotinamide has really made a difference. Finally no more frantic itching. It was driving me nuts trying to help her, she had so many sores and mane and tail rubbed out. I kept bathing her in insecticide shampoo and medicated shampoo and using fly replellant and fly rugs - very frustrating for both her and I.
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Salt doesn't appear to be working for my boy either.

Where do you get Nicotinamide from?
 
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