Global herbs sarc-ex...

I know of one horse who had awful sarcoids and they disappeared after a few months of SarcEx. My friend sells a lot of it in her tack shop and says most people are convinced it helps.
 
very good. My boy had liverpool treatment on 2 seperate occasions and he healed much faster 2nd time round with sarc-ex. Not sure if i'd trust it on its own, but folks on here have and have had good results.
 
A friend used it for 6 months and it did absolutely nothing. (and was very expensive)

One course of Liverpool cream and sarcoids dropped off.

Sarcoids are skin cancer and really need urgent treatment IMO
 
I used it for on a pony that had 5 under his tummy. He had had them for about a year within one tub they had all dropped off. I was amazed as I had only used it in the hope of stopping him getting more.
 
foxy1 said:
Sarcoids are skin cancer and really need urgent treatment IMO
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Bit of an overreaction :)

Sarcoids are slow growing cancers but very rarely invasive and usually cause very little trouble unless near eyes or rubbed by tack or body parts of the horse. Most horses with sarcoids live with them for long, happy and healthy lives. They are very, very common and most of them don't need treatment at all, and very rarely "urgent" treatment. So don't be scared if your horse has them, you are in good company!
 
The problem with sarcoids is that bog standard lumps and bumps and odd patches of this and that can SEEM to be a sarcoid. The only way to categorically define something as a sarcoid is by taking a biospy, an act that could very well prompt a TRUE sarcoid to become more aggressive. But an owner may then bombard the odd lump with everything from witchcraft to god knows what. If the odd lump (that ISN'T a sarcoid) subsequently disappears, the owner will think it was because she buried the placenta from her firstborn at midnight at a crossroads under a full moon when there was an "R" in the month. Nothing will then convince that owner that she hasn't found a foolproof way to get rid of sarcoids. The odd lump was almost certainly on the point of self-resolving but try telling that to a confirmed I've-got-a-cure-for-sarcoids owner. True sarcoids should not be messed with. They are a form of skin cancer and whilst they can remain inactive for almost the whole of the horse's life, some don't. Take care what you apply to a sarcoid: any product that states that it makes skin cells heal faster should be avoided like the plague (for a true sarcoid). The last thing you want for a skin cancer is the cells prodded into being active. Tea tree and aloe vera products are a no-no. Also, Camrosa is not for use on sarcoids - read the pamphlet carefully!!! The absolute best course of action an owner of a horse with sarcoids can take is to visit Prof Knottenbelt's definitive guide to sarcoids. Can't remember the website but google will find it. The Prof is a world expert on sarcoids and he advises that the ONLY predictable thing about a true sarcoid is its UNpredictability. Take care.

In answer to your question, let me throw one back to you (apologies, I've said this before). If you developed a skiin cancer, would you rush down to Boots or your local herbalist to buy something to sprinkle on your cornflakes or would you be straight down to your GP?
 
Sarc-Ex worked wonders for my horse and for another I recommended it to. I now forget mine ever had sarcoids!

The spring is supposedly the time when sarcoids grow most rapidly, so it's a good time to feed it.
 
Haha, BOF
'If the odd lump (that ISN'T a sarcoid) subsequently disappears, the owner will think it was because she buried the placenta from her firstborn at midnight at a crossroads under a full moon when there was an "R" in the month. Nothing will then convince that owner that she hasn't found a foolproof way to get rid of sarcoids.'

I think i have posted about it before, and you have given very good advice! Have visited proff knottenbelts site before, very informative, but I do feel a bit melodramatic as what I see is a pimple that is not bothering her whatsoever.

Basically, she is for sale, this is why it worries me. It's only very tiny, although has changed shape, hasn't grown. It doesn't bother me in the slightest. However, potential purchasers see the word 'scarcoid' and obviously imagine the worst possible scenario. So from a selling point of view, it's already reduced her value, by making her uninsurable against them, and there is always the possiblity of it coming back. So taking it off is an option (obviously any potential buyer will be informed that it was removed), as i think most buyers would prefer it not to be there.

My vet, who I hold in high regards, (he's about 75, has been a vet 'all of his life' is the single most grumpy, impolite man I have ever met but he knows his onions from his cabbage) has said to leave it be. If it grows in the next 3 months, to band it and put some liverpool cream on it.

She was vetted by another vet previous to my vet seeing her, who was an absolute joke too add to this. Who obviously had to state that it was a sarcoid, and quoted the woman who was going to buy her 400 bleedin' quid to have it removed. I was less than impressed to say the least. But that's water under the bridge.

So, this is where I am at.
Do I spend hundreds of pounds on creams/surgery that will potentially work, but the possibility still remains it will return/come back with avengance. When in actual fact I couldn't care less about the lump in the first place and if it was me i'd just leave it alone?
OR
Do I spend 30 quid on this tub of 'erbs and give that a punt, and if it drops off it drops off, and if it doesn't it doesn't? then consider what I'm going to do after that? As it seems this tub of 'erbs has no adverse affects on it, it either works or doesn't.

Anyway, going back to the 'lump', it's under the skin, seems to be loose, as in I can get my fingers underneath it, had one 'head' has now split and flattened out, as i said, not growth, just changed.
Does this stuff make the sarcid explode into a massive cacky thing before eventually dropping off, because if so, i won't use it, as i'd rather not end up with a worse case of what i already have.


HO HUM, I seem to be slightly contradicting myself on whatever i say, because I can't decide what in the lords name to do.
It really shouldn't be an issue, I know it's fine, my vet knows it's fine, most people I've spoken to have laughed at me for worrying over a pimple. BUT, buyers seem to run a mile over it.
 
If I were you I would get liverpool cream and get rid of it

But just to say Global herbs advise you need to use sarc-x for 3-6 months for it to work so not sure what time frame you are hoping to sell the horse in?!

Good Luck :)
 
SLB - you're between a rock and a hard place. If you do nothing, the diagnosis of a sarcoid would have to be declared in which case a potential purchaser could change her mind about buying or knock a substantial amount off the purchase price to reflect the sarcoid. If she is bought, the new owner would then be unable to get insurance cover for anything connected with sarcoids. As you say, if the existing sarcoid stayed dormant, no problem. But as you will realise from the Prof's info, anything can happen with true sarcoids.

If you have the sarcoid treated with Liverpool cream before sale, you'll still have to declare it with all the same issues as above. Good luck x
 
Ive always been one for herbs etc but recently ive turned more to the use the tried and tested medical way.

Ive got some sarcoids on one of mine, tried thuja, waste of money its done nothing, shes been in echinacea for immune system again nothing. I could have had the liverpool cream months ago and they would probably have gone and i could be out to the shows by now.

If you have time and want to try it why not though , worst it can do is not work.
 
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