Going to name & shame... would you be happy about this !!!

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Some people.... Emily Caswell Photography who was at Barbury horse trials at the week end, has happily put up photo's and tagged many of the riders in the photo's of the injured horse that got taken away in the horse ambulance... I think this is very wrong and many comments have been made for her to remove and untag riders in the photo's, but she has chosen to ignore their requests... Do you think this is also wrong.. :(
https://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#...31770475.45541.128163970578955&type=1&theater
 
oh, awful ... why doesn't she take them down?

poor horse, and contacts who look so concerned. Hope horse comes OK.

Her photos aren't very good anyway - she's chopped the legs off most of the horses, I think the page needs some serious editing.
 
OMG the ones of Rosie Fry and Bankon Louie falling in the water at Banbury are awful he is clearly injured and bleeding, hope he's OK and the injuries weren't too serious.:(
 
thats sick they should report her to FB and I agree she is not a good photographer and even worse for tagging people.
 
That is a total invasion of privacy at an awful time for all concerned. Perhaps she is trying to get a reputation as a "gritty" photographer?
 
There are some lovely horses there! But those pics should come down. I know all the joys of the tog still has the copy right on everything, but a bit of common sense wouldn't go amiss!
 
Haven't looked but is she Barbury's official photographer and if not, would she have to have been accredited by them to be there because presumably, she will be selling her pictures? If so, they need to be told so they can put out strict guidelines on what someone (almost of their employ, certainly with their sanction) can and can't include of the event; only of actual jumping would be a start.

Yes, I'm appalled too, is she auditioning for a job with one of the scandal papers as it certainly shows a lack of judgement and decency.
 
if that was my horse i would be pretty fuming.... and anyway, if i was a professional photographer, I would have a good website instead of using Facebook as a method of displaying my photos.

on a slightly different tack (but in a similar vein), i dont know if anyone else is following le Tour de France, but there have been some pretty awful crashes in the last few stages, 2 of which were caused by media vehicles which are there to take pics/record vids for the many areas of the media that cover the event. In one, a photographers motorbike clipped a rider. In the other, a tv crew car swerved to avoid a tree, straight into a small group of riders, one of which ended up tangled on a barbed wire fence.

Another crash really shocked me; in the aftermath whilst riders were picking themselves up and setting off again, one lay completely unconcious on the road, whilst a photographer jumped off his motorbike, got up close and personal, and happily snapped away without even the briefest check to see if the rider was even breathing.

It seems the media will do whatever they have to, in order to get the shots they need to make their money.
 
alj7 said:
if that was my horse i would be pretty fuming.... and anyway, if i was a professional photographer, I would have a good website instead of using Facebook as a method of displaying my photos.

on a slightly different tack (but in a similar vein), i dont know if anyone else is following le Tour de France, but there have been some pretty awful crashes in the last few stages, 2 of which were caused by media vehicles which are there to take pics/record vids for the many areas of the media that cover the event. In one, a photographers motorbike clipped a rider. In the other, a tv crew car swerved to avoid a tree, straight into a small group of riders, one of which ended up tangled on a barbed wire fence.

Another crash really shocked me; in the aftermath whilst riders were picking themselves up and setting off again, one lay completely unconcious on the road, whilst a photographer jumped off his motorbike, got up close and personal, and happily snapped away without even the briefest check to see if the rider was even breathing.

It seems the media will do whatever they have to, in order to get the shots they need to make their money.
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I follow the Tour, and those two crashes in particular have been awful. :(
Such a sad thing about Vinokourov, his career's over.
 
I've had a look and I don't see the problem?

If you go to a public event you are going to be photographed and the horse was fine, so its not like putting up pictures of a dead horse!

I would rather see the emergency crew in action to show how professional everyone is.
 
Gosh, just had a look at the pictures. Just because you emblazed copyright across your pictures doesn’t mean you’re very good! She has no idea about framing a shot, a lot are out of focus, the colours are dull, I can’t see that anyone would pay for that cr@p. Taking lots of pictures of an injured horse being loaded into an ambulance, well it’s silly, why would anyone buy them? As before they aren’t even very good!
 
I don't know.. On the one hand, I found it really interesting to see the horse ambulance, and I think that what goes on behind the screens SHOULD be shown, but on the other, she should really have got the owners permission to put them on facebook, or take the ones behind the screens at all.

I think that it is important that we don't just see all of the good pictures, and providing that it is okay with the owner of the horse, I think seeing when things go wrong is quite educational.

Oh, and I have seen people with a point and shoot camera take better photos than her :o
 
piebaldsparkle said:
OMG the ones of Rosie Fry and Bankon Louie falling in the water at Banbury are awful he is clearly injured and bleeding, hope he's OK and the injuries weren't too serious.:(
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Bank on Louie, unseated Britain's Rosie Fry and suffered serious soft tissue damage in a wound to the chest after running through the string stakes marking out the galloping lanes. The horse was given intravenous fluids and stabilized at the on-site veterinary treatment center before being transported to the Willesley Veterinary Centre in Tetbury for the wound to be repaired.


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Devonshire dumpling said:
Bank on Louie, unseated Britain's Rosie Fry and suffered serious soft tissue damage in a wound to the chest after running through the string stakes marking out the galloping lanes. The horse was given intravenous fluids and stabilized at the on-site veterinary treatment center before being transported to the Willesley Veterinary Centre in Tetbury for the wound to be repaired.


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I saw the horse in the warm up being helped,we were all under the impression as above that it was through running through the string, but having looked at the pics it looks like it was done in the water? I do hope a full recovery is made, poor horse!

Im in two minds, I think that it is not very nice to see at all, but agree that it is good to see what happens afterwards.
 
As a photographer myself, I wouldn't put photos like that up, especially if the horse or rider was injured. I think the horse in the screens photos are not fair at all, i wouldn't even taken them let alone publicly posted them on the internet! Hope all horses and riders are ok though.

I have just made my own website but have put my photos on facebook before that and it did work quite well but i wouldn't post images like she did anywhere, let alone for the whole world to see! Yes she is a photographer but she should know when and what is and isn't acceptable to post publicly on the internet.

Oh and also, some of her photos aren't actually that good - quite a few are partly or mostly out of focus! I think she needs to do some more practice and also think about what is acceptable to post and what isn't as i certainly wouldn't be happy seeing photos of my horse behind the screens if it ever happened!
 
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she wasnt the official photographer, that was Ultimate Images who DO have very good images.

As a photographer, i photograph the thrills and spills but never put them online. Many venues want the images for the insutrance claims, etc
 
No, I'd not be happy at all. In fact if I saw someone was taking pics of one of my boys injured I'd be inclined to take the camera and......fill in the blanks yourself, it wouldn't be pretty or nice....
 
Awful :/ I was there and watched poor Rosie Fry & Bankon Louie fall and then watched him gallop off bleeding. I would go absolutely mad if I was connected with any of these horses!
 
I really don't see a problem... If the horse had then died I'd think it was wrong though.

In other news, Willesley are our vets and they're fab! Xx
 
The horse is on its feet throughout, and there are no visible serious injuries, so I would not describe these pictures as horrific in any way. It is perhaps a little insensitive to have them online, although as someone has pointed out, taking photos of this kind can be useful for insurance etc. Also, I'm sure that I have seen 'thrills and spills' type pictures on other photographers' sites - there were some pretty nasy pics when Oliver Townend came off in the States that persumably a photographer had sold to the media, but I don't recall seeing any threads castigating them?

The pictures that I looked at are not great quality and it's clear that the photographer still has a lot to learn, but they are not the gore-fest I expected from this thread. I was expecting humane killers and horses being winched onto the ambulance tbh. Bit of an overreaction IMO.
 
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