Going to view a horse!

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Beausmate said:
It is very good for me.

Last week, whilst i was busy with customers, I had somebody phone eleven times in ten minutes. Somebody else beat that, by calling sixty times that morning. I was busy. Then the bloody emails start. I ignore people who do that, it's rude and those are the exact people who will complain about sod all and never actually buy anything.

It is an astounding level of entitlement.

You do rather bring a lot of this onto yourself by your attitude. Who the hell posts a demand for a response to an enquiry on a public forum?
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As usual you're reading more into than was intended just so you can get a rise so just give it up. It's truly pathetic baiting someone all the time.

I didn't 'post a demand', I explained that I had contacted the seller numerous times. Suggest you get your facts correct and stop twisting things.

I skimmed read Immy's reply and as clearly did others, thought she was the seller.

If you don't like what I write then just skim past it. No need to comment.....😡
 
Birker2020 said:
As usual you're reading more into than was intended just so you can get a rise so just give it up. It's truly pathetic baiting someone all the time.

I didn't 'post a demand', I explained that I had contacted the seller numerous times. Suggest you get your facts correct and stop twisting things.
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Honestly and you wonder why people have the reaction to you that they have? Hounding someone on multiple platforms is ridiculous!

Since this keeps happening in reaction to your posts perhaps look at the common denominator which is you 👀

Why in the heck people keep trying to help you I will never know as you clearly live in your own lala land.
 
Birker all you have to do is make your initial response along the lines of ‘hands up, I’m a twonk. Sorry Immy’

Job done.

But no you go on the attack. You have so little self awareness it’s gobsmacking.

I think I’m on UI so I can probably say this without getting a full on bullying woe is me response!! See there are benefits to UI
 
Roasted Chestnuts said:
Honestly and you wonder why people have the reaction to you that they have? Hounding someone on multiple platforms is ridiculous!

Since this keeps happening in reaction to your posts perhaps look at the common denominator which is you 👀

Why in the heck people keep trying to help you I will never know as you clearly live in your own lala land.
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At risk of repeating myself.

The seller asked in the advert to leave a message on What's App. I did.

I didn't hear anything. Followed it up with a voice mail. Then a FB message.

Immy said on the forum she had loads of photos and videos so I assumed she was the seller. So I pm'd her and also mentioned i was interested in the thread. When she Pm'd me back to say she wasn't the seller but the horses previous owner I thanked her. I've since found out the horse is out of my budget. No big deal.


I am not sat at home doing nothing whilst I'm out of work. I spend my days visiting Mum, attending interviews, my and my partners hospital appointments, preparing mums car for sale, doing housework, visiting my Aunt who is not well, sorting through Mum's stuff in her house, boxing up our stuff to move out. I'm busy too you know.
 
I think people felt that what you posted was rather rude Birker. I don’t get involved in these things normally, but your post came across as very demanding. It read as “why aren’t you replying to me! I’ve tried x, y and z and you’re still ignoring me!” That sort of thing tends to get people’s backs up.

Anyway, it seems it’s all sorted now.

He’s a lovely chap and he’ll make somebody very happy I’m sure.
 
scats said:
I think people felt that what you posted was rather rude Birker. I don’t get involved in these things normally, but your post came across as very demanding. It read as “why aren’t you replying to me! I’ve tried x, y and z and you’re still ignoring me!” That sort of thing tends to get people’s backs up.

Anyway, it seems it’s all sorted now.

He’s a lovely chap and he’ll make somebody very happy I’m sure.
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OK fair enough but 1000% it wasn't intended to be rude, I was just trying to explain that I had made a good effort and I apologise if it came across that way. Tbh some people are so intent in always seeing the bad in me no matter what, that whatever I write, however innocently gets blown out of all proportion.

Tbh a 3 or 4 hour round trip is about as much as we are prepared to drive. I'm not desperate (still makes me laugh that I was recently accused of being desperate to buy a horse some 2 yrs on)

Life is so up and down at the moment and there are so many more important things to focus on.

Anyway I now know that this is another subject to join all the hundreds of others that is just not worth discussing on here anymore which is a real shame as a lot of people have been genuinely kind and helpful. But I have effectively been silenced.

So viewing a horse, for me at least, is now subject closed as sadly it's safer that way.
 
Birker2020 said:
As usual you're reading more into than was intended just so you can get a rise so just give it up. It's truly pathetic baiting someone all the time.

I didn't 'post a demand', I explained that I had contacted the seller numerous times. Suggest you get your facts correct and stop twisting things.

I skimmed read Immy's reply and as clearly did others, thought she was the seller.

If you don't like what I write then just skim past it. No need to comment.....😡
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I wasn't going to respond, but what the hell.

I didn't reply to get a rise, so nothing to give up. Your tone came across as demanding, and I'm not the only one to read it that way. I haven't twisted anything, it's you doing that.

If you don't want people 'baiting' you, than don't put yourself out as bait. But you do, over and over again. You have been on this forum for years, and yet you still have to play the victim. As I've said (and so have many others) before, you're not being bullied, but you do wind people up and they will respond, whether you like it or not.
 
Birker2020 said:
At risk of repeating myself.

The seller asked in the advert to leave a message on What's App. I did.

I didn't hear anything. Followed it up with a voice mail. Then a FB message.

Immy said on the forum she had loads of photos and videos so I assumed she was the seller. So I pm'd her and also mentioned i was interested in the thread. When she Pm'd me back to say she wasn't the seller but the horses previous owner I thanked her. I've since found out the horse is out of my budget. No big deal.


I am not sat at home doing nothing whilst I'm out of work. I spend my days visiting Mum, attending interviews, my and my partners hospital appointments, preparing mums car for sale, doing housework, visiting my Aunt who is not well, sorting through Mum's stuff in her house, boxing up our stuff to move out. I'm busy too you know.
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Again with the me me me though. If you are so busy then perhaps spare a thought about others that are!

You seem to imagine that everything revolves around you and that really puts peoples backs up!

Stop playing the victim throwing out your mum and hospital appointments etc as an excuse, loads of people have those things but they don’t tell the whole world about them to get sympathy. You do it every time people tell you something you don’t like. It’s not a get out of jail free card when it’s used constantly. It’s been suggested that you maybe step away from the forum for a bit but you refuse to do it so nobody is baiting you. You rinse and repeat this dance constantly.
 
Roasted Chestnuts said:
Again with the me me me though. If you are so busy then perhaps spare a thought about others that are!

You seem to imagine that everything revolves around you and that really puts peoples backs up!

Stop playing the victim throwing out your mum and hospital appointments etc as an excuse, loads of people have those things but they don’t tell the whole world about them to get sympathy. You do it every time people tell you something you don’t like. It’s not a get out of jail free card when it’s used constantly. It’s been suggested that you maybe step away from the forum for a bit but you refuse to do it so nobody is baiting you. You rinse and repeat this dance constantly.
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Wow just wow......Your reply and the level of unkindness you have shown towards me in your reply says a lot more about you than it does me, my love.

For someone to be accused of playing the victim when they are just struggling and feeling overwhelmed with life is unbelievable. I'm not looking for sympathy, I was just trying to explain. I won't be commenting further because there's absolutely no point trying to reason with people like yourself and why should I?.
 
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Birker2020 said:
Wow just wow......Your reply and the level of unkindness you have shown towards me in your reply says a lot more about you than it does me, my love.

For someone to be accused of playing the victim when they are just struggling and feeling overwhelmed with life is unbelievable. I'm not looking for sympathy, I was just trying to explain. I won't be commenting further because there's absolutely no point trying to reason with people like yourself and why should I?.
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I think you need to look to your own level of unkindness and also entitlement. Badgering people then when called out going on the attack? Yeah the issue is clearly me here.
 
Asha said:
@Waxwing . If you are still looking I’ve just seen a beautiful 6yo 16.1 bay ID mare for sale . She may be quite green but would be worth investing with the. Right trainer . She’s a pure ID by Archie .
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Hi Asha , thank you for this, I had a look but couldn't find the link. If you could point me in the right direction that would be appreciated. :) I am still looking tentatively but there still isn't much advertised that I want to go and see. It isn't so much the money, if I need to spend 15k ish then so be it, DH is being supportive and making this possible, but I have to feel that the horse would at least be potentially right for me. There is a lot advertised that I know would be far too much horse for me, or would be ok but is too small. It is also logistically difficult at present as I work full time and have to drive DD to work everyday and sometimes collect her and this includes some weekend days, so opportunities to view a horse are limited. I would definitely rather have no horse than the wrong horse, but will keep looking :) Thank you again for thinking of me, it is appreciated and I do love an ID :)
 
Waxwing said:
Hi Asha , thank you for this, I had a look but couldn't find the link. If you could point me in the right direction that would be appreciated. :) I am still looking tentatively but there still isn't much advertised that I want to go and see. It isn't so much the money, if I need to spend 15k ish then so be it, DH is being supportive and making this possible, but I have to feel that the horse would at least be potentially right for me. There is a lot advertised that I know would be far too much horse for me, or would be ok but is too small. It is also logistically difficult at present as I work full time and have to drive DD to work everyday and sometimes collect her and this includes some weekend days, so opportunities to view a horse are limited. I would definitely rather have no horse than the wrong horse, but will keep looking :) Thank you again for thinking of me, it is appreciated and I do love an ID :)
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Totally understand, buying horses is so difficult. Its so hard to find a match when in theory you really only get 1 or 2 chances to try them. If you have a look at Avanti Amorous Archies FB page, im sure shes on the there. Shes called Daisy Full name Archies golden girl. She looks a lovely type, shes 6 but has bred 2 foals. So will be very green.

My homebred mare Amara would be perfect for you in about 12 months and if we shrunk her to 16hds. Archie really does give them good brains.

I will keep my eye out for you.
 
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Birker2020 said:
Wow just wow......Your reply and the level of unkindness you have shown towards me in your reply says a lot more about you than it does me, my love.

For someone to be accused of playing the victim when they are just struggling and feeling overwhelmed with life is unbelievable. I'm not looking for sympathy, I was just trying to explain. I won't be commenting further because there's absolutely no point trying to reason with people like yourself and why should I?.
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I am breaking my sabbatical from the forum because this can't go unchallenged. A big part of the reason for taking a sabbatical was the reaction of 3 people whose posts poking at you I protected you from. Your reaction to that and to another attempt I made to try and help you was to accuse me very explicitly of being nice to you for underhand reasons.

The problems you have on this forum are largely of your own making. Those that are not of your own making at the time are because of your previous behaviour on the forum, which has now put up the backs of so many people that you have made yourself a target and continue to make yourself a target.

Do not expect me ever again to protect you as I have. The way you rewarded me for that was extraordinarily nasty and the price I paid for it too high.

If you are that overwhelmed by life at the moment, leave the forum for a while like I am doing. It's a hard place to handle if you aren't in the right frame of mind.
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I am breaking my sabbatical from the forum because this can't go unchallenged. A big part of the reason for taking a sabbatical was the reaction of 3 people whose posts poking at you I protected you from. Your reaction to that and to another attempt I made to try and help you was to accuse me very explicitly of being nice to you for underhand reasons.

The problems you have on this forum are largely of your own making. Those that are not of your own making at the time are because of your previous behaviour on the forum, which has now put up the backs of so many people that you have made yourself a target and continue to make yourself a target.

Do not expect me ever again to protect you as I have. The way you rewarded me for that was extraordinarily nasty and the price I paid for it too high.

If you are that overwhelmed by life at the moment, leave the forum for a while like I am doing. It's a hard place to handle if you aren't in the right frame of mind.
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I am not sure if you are still online and will read this ycbm, or indeed you may have me on UI, but I just wanted to say I posted a very similar post to this one of yours way back in 22/23 I think it was. With very comparable circumstances and light bulb moment that led to my withdrawal of continuing support.

I know you and I have many differing opinions but I felt it important to acknowledge that I can completely understand what you are saying and frankly, I had been half expecting that your disillusionment would probably happen at some point, much as mine did.

I am very sorry for your health problems at the moment and sincerely hope you both will soon be feeling much better than you are right now.
 
ycbm said:
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I am breaking my sabbatical from the forum because this can't go unchallenged. A big part of the reason for taking a sabbatical was the reaction of 3 people whose posts poking at you I protected you from. Your reaction to that and to another attempt I made to try and help you was to accuse me very explicitly of being nice to you for underhand reasons.

The problems you have on this forum are largely of your own making. Those that are not of your own making at the time are because of your previous behaviour on the forum, which has now put up the backs of so many people that you have made yourself a target and continue to make yourself a target.

Do not expect me ever again to protect you as I have. The way you rewarded me for that was extraordinarily nasty and the price I paid for it too high.

If you are that overwhelmed by life at the moment, leave the forum for a while like I am doing. It's a hard place to handle if you aren't in the right frame of mind.
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The post I made on here yesterday is the first time I have responded to anything posted by Birker for months now. But her post about Immy was enough to make me break my silence.

The reason I haven't responded to Birker for so long is because of the vile way she treated you during a previous tantrum. I was fairly oblivious to the tension between Birker and I'm Dun as I wasn't on the forum as often back then, so when the Facebook photo thing happened a. I missed it happening, and b. didn't see the context.

However I became much more aware of various forum dynamics after that and had noticed that you would very very frequently make a point of popping up on threads that Birker had posted on, defending her or deflecting negativity. When she attacked you, I was genuinely shocked. I think I messaged you at the time to say so.

I'd noticed more recently that you have not only been engaging with her on here again, but also have gone back to defending her. I was surprised, as I wouldn't have been able to. You're a better person than I am.

I'm sorry that you've been bitten once again. Especially as you have for more than enough on your plate to be dealing with.

Take care, and don't be a stranger ❤️
 
Asha said:
Totally understand, buying horses is so difficult. Its so hard to find a match when in theory you really only get 1 or 2 chances to try them. If you have a look at Avanti Amorous Archies FB page, im sure shes on the there. Shes called Daisy Full name Archies golden girl. She looks a lovely type, shes 6 but has bred 2 foals. So will be very green.

My homebred mare Amara would be perfect for you in about 12 months and if we shrunk her to 16hds. Archie really does give them good brains.

I will keep my eye out for you.
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Being immensely fortunate enough to have an Archie, I whole heartedly endorse him as a sire and his loss is a major blow to the world of the ID. Conformation, brain, attitude and stunning looks are all in his progeny. The purebred mares are worth a fortune and will become a very rare horse to source.
 
Kirstd33 said:
Thanks WW, I think we are looking for a very similar sounding mythical beast just at different ends of the county! Me to 80% hack, low level RC clinics and a fortnightly lesson and Teen daughter to low level XC and the odd funride, although she's a quiet girl and not one to hoon about. If i see anything that catches my eye i'll pop it on here.
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I actually have this exact horse :D
 
Waxwing said:
I called the owner of the grey ID at they time they suggested this evening, and sent a follow up message, but I didn't get a response. I assume they have been rather inundated with calls. (This is not mentioned as a negative about the seller, I appreciate there will have been a lot of interest in this horse.)

I will continue the search for a new one, but given the amount he or she or will cost to purchase, the cost of the caring for him or her each month and the emotional cost if things don't work out , this has to be on terms I am comfortable with. I potentially want to be able to view more than once and take my instructor or an experienced friend with me and have time to think about any potential purchase, both for my sake and the sake of the horse. I work full time so can only really do viewings after work or if they are further away at the weekend.

Having the wrong horse is definitely are worse outcome than having no horse, both for the horse and me and my daughter

Thank you very much for the offer of assistance Spacefaer :).
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If you still searching let me know, my girl may suit you!
 
CastlelackSportHorses said:
If you still searching let me know, my girl may suit you!
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If you could PM me some details that would be great. Very briefly I am in the East of England, but willing to travel looking for a low level all rounder to be a mother teenager share. Our previous horse was a 16h ID for reference to give an idea of the approximate size we are looking for. I am fairly tall so looking for a middleweight but open on breed etc.
 
Poing said:
@Birker2020 you may want to close this thread. Let the recommendations appear on a separate thread for others looking.

On a separate note, I find the price of horses eye watering now. I’m not in the market for one, but I feel sorry for anyone looking.
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I've just reported it as I want a stop to all the comments. It's nothing to do with viewing a horse thread when it resorts to personal attacks on posters to the extent I've had from C c
 
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