ThomasTank
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Hmm I wonder how the owner would feel if her horse put six duvets on her at night !! ITS A HORSE !!!!!!!
Good Grief! How many rugs....??!!
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Halfstep
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I have to say - why is it anyone's business how this person rugs her horse? Is the horse sweating or uncomfortable? Unless this is the case it really isn't anyone else's business how many rugs the horse is wearing. Sorry.
cornwallexracers
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6 rugs! Thats absolutely crazy.
All mine are ex-racers, and, shock of horrors they had fleeces on last night with 300g hich neck stable rugs on top, and all were snug this morning.
All mine are ex-racers, and, shock of horrors they had fleeces on last night with 300g hich neck stable rugs on top, and all were snug this morning.
sojeph
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I have to say - why is it anyone's business how this person rugs her horse? Is the horse sweating or uncomfortable? Unless this is the case it really isn't anyone else's business how many rugs the horse is wearing. Sorry.
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Put 6 jackets on and see how well you can move about..I can't believe (however well fitting they are) that a horse can be comfortable in 6 rugs. I wonder if the 6th one is any bigger than the 1st!
Lots of things aren't our business but we're still entitled to discuss them
I have to say - why is it anyone's business how this person rugs her horse? Is the horse sweating or uncomfortable? Unless this is the case it really isn't anyone else's business how many rugs the horse is wearing. Sorry.
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Put 6 jackets on and see how well you can move about..I can't believe (however well fitting they are) that a horse can be comfortable in 6 rugs. I wonder if the 6th one is any bigger than the 1st!
Lots of things aren't our business but we're still entitled to discuss them
Nic
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6 was normal at the event yard I used to work for, poor things were sweating in the morning - drve me mad!
JACQSZOO
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I'm wondering whether I'm doing something wrong! Geogie has a blanket clip, is in an a fairly open stable and wears a 300g rug and thats it. He has had a 150g on in the milder weather. He goes out in a MW with neck. He has had his hw turnout on once since I bought it 2 years ago!
dressagespain
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6 rugs is utterly stupid. The technology of the rugs nowadays means that you need LESS rugs on, the people developing the designs are doing it for a reason.
My trakhener feels the cold here cos there is a massive difference between day and night temps, so he has a M/W fal outdoor rug on and stable bandages. If it gets colder then he will have a fleece underneath.
My trakhener feels the cold here cos there is a massive difference between day and night temps, so he has a M/W fal outdoor rug on and stable bandages. If it gets colder then he will have a fleece underneath.
Super_Kat
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My 2 girls get fully clipped out because they get very sweaty when worked if they still have their coats on and Missy isn't doing too badly with rugs. Missy Wears a rambo Wug (high neck) during the day with a fleece (against her body) a weatherbeets under rug conbo in between and she's plenty toasty. Stor has started feeling he cold this last week so she has her Rambo Wug on with a weatherbeeta under rug combo on underneath with the neck folded back slightly and at night she has her fleece underneath the under rug and a single duvet in between the under rug and the rambo wug and she's perfectly happy with this on.
My baby (2yo mostly TB) is out in the field with nothing but mud on
My baby (2yo mostly TB) is out in the field with nothing but mud on
SpaceMolly
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God! I feel awful now. My boy lives out 24/7 and only has a HW combo on!
Although he isn't clipped.
evsj
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I have to say - why is it anyone's business how this person rugs her horse? Is the horse sweating or uncomfortable? Unless this is the case it really isn't anyone else's business how many rugs the horse is wearing. Sorry.
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I was asked by the girl what my advice was...which kind of does make it my business!!
And in any case I put the question out to see if anyone used more than this number of rugs. If issues like this are 'none of our business' it kind of makes this forum a waste of time! If we all minded our business then none of our experience would get passed onto younger/less experienced people - this girl has been riding for 4 years and she asked me what she should do. Ok, so she ignored me - that was her choice - but she did make it my business.
I don't know if her horse was sweating or uncomfortable - it's none of my business to go into its stable and find out. On the basis of my experience I would assess that it probably was.
I have to say - why is it anyone's business how this person rugs her horse? Is the horse sweating or uncomfortable? Unless this is the case it really isn't anyone else's business how many rugs the horse is wearing. Sorry.
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I was asked by the girl what my advice was...which kind of does make it my business!!
And in any case I put the question out to see if anyone used more than this number of rugs. If issues like this are 'none of our business' it kind of makes this forum a waste of time! If we all minded our business then none of our experience would get passed onto younger/less experienced people - this girl has been riding for 4 years and she asked me what she should do. Ok, so she ignored me - that was her choice - but she did make it my business.
I don't know if her horse was sweating or uncomfortable - it's none of my business to go into its stable and find out. On the basis of my experience I would assess that it probably was.
Tia
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What weight are the rugs? If a horse is wearing 5 lightweight rugs then they could all weigh far less than just 1 heavyweight rug.
Over here where we have extremes of temperature, layering is absolutely drummed into you. One heavy-filled coat will never be as effective as 5 or 6 lightweight ones worn in layers.
I'm not on anyone's side here, just pointing out that in countries where -30 and -40 temperatures are almost a daily occurance in normal winters, that we are all told never to put on just one thick outer garment but to layer.
Over here where we have extremes of temperature, layering is absolutely drummed into you. One heavy-filled coat will never be as effective as 5 or 6 lightweight ones worn in layers.
I'm not on anyone's side here, just pointing out that in countries where -30 and -40 temperatures are almost a daily occurance in normal winters, that we are all told never to put on just one thick outer garment but to layer.
evsj
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Two medium stable rugs, one HW stable rug, a fleece and a full neck underrug.
I fully understand the principles of layering. This girl was wanting add the horses outdoor rug on top and I explained that lots of thin layers would be better than some of the thick layers.
If it ever got to -30 here this horse would be in trouble!
I fully understand the principles of layering. This girl was wanting add the horses outdoor rug on top and I explained that lots of thin layers would be better than some of the thick layers.
If it ever got to -30 here this horse would be in trouble!
vicijp
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I like to layer:
TB's -
Jeremy, Argy Bargy, Big Boy (full clipped + in) - fleece, lightweight high neck, lightweight stable.
Filly and Coco Smudge (half clipped + in) - lightweight high neck and lightweight stable.
Quirky (unclipped + in) - fleece at night.
Spongebob (foal), Cheekster (both in at nights, field day, unclipped) - naked.
Brood mare (field day, in at night) - naked
Smarts (out 24/7) - lighteweight turnout.
Welshies -
Max and Flash (out 24/7) - naked.
TB's -
Jeremy, Argy Bargy, Big Boy (full clipped + in) - fleece, lightweight high neck, lightweight stable.
Filly and Coco Smudge (half clipped + in) - lightweight high neck and lightweight stable.
Quirky (unclipped + in) - fleece at night.
Spongebob (foal), Cheekster (both in at nights, field day, unclipped) - naked.
Brood mare (field day, in at night) - naked
Smarts (out 24/7) - lighteweight turnout.
Welshies -
Max and Flash (out 24/7) - naked.
Tia
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If it ever got to -30 here this horse would be in trouble!
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LOL!! Michelin Man eat your heart out!
If it ever got to -30 here this horse would be in trouble!
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LOL!! Michelin Man eat your heart out!
madgirl
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major feels the cold easily but only has two rugs on both mw! He may have had an extra one on last night I'm not sure if YO put one on!
Nickymac
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I'd find out by putting my hand up their rug, front and back, to see if they were cold then add another layer if need be. Surely that's just common sense.
madhector
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my tb gelding has a middle wieght stable rug and a sleeping bag underneath the last couple of nights, he has a full coat
my WB mare has lightwieght stable and middleweight stable plus a fleece the last couple of nights, she has a full clip, tried her with a sleeping bag but she always managed to remove it in the night and i would find her all miserable and cold in the morning, silly moo
my WB mare has lightwieght stable and middleweight stable plus a fleece the last couple of nights, she has a full clip, tried her with a sleeping bag but she always managed to remove it in the night and i would find her all miserable and cold in the morning, silly moo
skye123
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at my old yard a stupid stupid girl had a seriously lame horse that that was just coming back into work (half hour walk and bit of trot) she had the poor thing fully clipped not even his legs left on and then put 7 rugs on him
*thick stable rug
*rhino wug with neck cover
*masta duvet
*light weight stable rug
and then fleeces
its poor back must have really suffered
the horse got better then went seriously lame agian and had to be sold as a companion!
*thick stable rug
*rhino wug with neck cover
*masta duvet
*light weight stable rug
and then fleeces
its poor back must have really suffered
the horse got better then went seriously lame agian and had to be sold as a companion!
vickers22
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bl***y hell!!its people like that that make you wonder why people keep horses at all!!!A family at my yard do the opposite, they put half torn rugs on so that the rain just seeps through onto them!(they got a new one after about a month)poor horsies....
And their adorable little pony which is scared of them is always shivering poor blighter-i always have to check they have enough hay and water because they dont turn up to the stables until about 2..grrrr
And their adorable little pony which is scared of them is always shivering poor blighter-i always have to check they have enough hay and water because they dont turn up to the stables until about 2..grrrr
barkinghorse
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William has a chest vest on and a MW rug with a neck. he has a very thin coat but still sweats if i put anymore in, so i consider myself lucky!
My old mare used to feel the cold,but i layered her rugs, rather than put a huge heavy duty rug on and this was more effective.
Jo
My old mare used to feel the cold,but i layered her rugs, rather than put a huge heavy duty rug on and this was more effective.
Jo
Allykat
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Blimey!! Poor horse must hava had to stand rooted to the spot all night!!
My TB is fully clipped and in l/w (4oz) and a m/w (8oz) stable rugs. He doesn't feel the cold and would be sweating if I put any more on him. My cob has had a heavy weight with neck and I did put and extra l/w underneath, but again I worried he'd be too warm.
My TB is fully clipped and in l/w (4oz) and a m/w (8oz) stable rugs. He doesn't feel the cold and would be sweating if I put any more on him. My cob has had a heavy weight with neck and I did put and extra l/w underneath, but again I worried he'd be too warm.
FinkleyAlex
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my part bred arab is fully clipped (will be hunting and also showing - guilty) and tonight is wearing a 4 tog duvet (very light summer type duvet) over his neck and back, a thermatex and a weatherbeeta h/w (although not very heavy) stable rug, he is nice and toasty, can walk and lie down. Last year at the coldest part of the year he was wearing a H/W stable rug with a h/w turnout rug on top, thats as heavy as he needs but winter has been fairly warm this year
druid
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Mine are hunter clipped and live out 24/7 on the side of a mountain, last night it was -6 at 10pm and one was wearing a fleece, hw stable rug and LW t/o w/ HW hood (his HW t/o is in being repaired after he trahsed it
) and the other was wearing a MW amigo w/ neck, and 2 HW rambo wugs - neither was overly warm this morning!
evsj
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at my old yard a stupid stupid girl had a seriously lame horse that that was just coming back into work (half hour walk and bit of trot) she had the poor thing fully clipped not even his legs left on and then put 7 rugs on him
*thick stable rug
*rhino wug with neck cover
*masta duvet
*light weight stable rug
and then fleeces
its poor back must have really suffered
the horse got better then went seriously lame agian and had to be sold as a companion!
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Exactly. Aside from the rug issue, I think full clipping horses in light work is stupid. yes, i know some people have to if they plan to show early in the season and don't want clip marks etc but there are too many people who full clip their horse just because of vanity. the teenagers at our yard all copy the wannabe showjumper who has full clipped both hers and only ponces around on them for about 30 mins a day.
at my old yard a stupid stupid girl had a seriously lame horse that that was just coming back into work (half hour walk and bit of trot) she had the poor thing fully clipped not even his legs left on and then put 7 rugs on him
*thick stable rug
*rhino wug with neck cover
*masta duvet
*light weight stable rug
and then fleeces
its poor back must have really suffered
the horse got better then went seriously lame agian and had to be sold as a companion!
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Exactly. Aside from the rug issue, I think full clipping horses in light work is stupid. yes, i know some people have to if they plan to show early in the season and don't want clip marks etc but there are too many people who full clip their horse just because of vanity. the teenagers at our yard all copy the wannabe showjumper who has full clipped both hers and only ponces around on them for about 30 mins a day.
JessPickle
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The 30 and 32 year old horse have 3 rugs each. One is an arab the other a new forest x Tb. Also 2 of the tb's have 3 rugs on but they are out 24/7 and are also mid twenties
MagicMelon
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I think thats crazy. 5 rugs???? He must have been pretty weighed down! Thats like wearing 5 layers for goodness sake!
I think maybe in the "old" days this was ok because rugs were more like blankets etc. back then. But nowadays with the super duper cosy duvet style rugs available, I simply see no reason to have to put more than 1 rug on!!
I think maybe in the "old" days this was ok because rugs were more like blankets etc. back then. But nowadays with the super duper cosy duvet style rugs available, I simply see no reason to have to put more than 1 rug on!!
Kelly1982
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My friend is exactly the same!!
Her horses had 4 rugs on at night and 3 on during the day, now it has got colder she has also put their duvets on!! They also have full hoods to keep their faces warm too!!
Things is she is her own worst enemy!! She always complains that her horse feels the cold but piling him with rugs is probably making him worse as he seems to get worse each year.
Her other horse never even had a rug on before she got her but now gets cold if she doesnt have 5 on!!
Her horses had 4 rugs on at night and 3 on during the day, now it has got colder she has also put their duvets on!! They also have full hoods to keep their faces warm too!!
Things is she is her own worst enemy!! She always complains that her horse feels the cold but piling him with rugs is probably making him worse as he seems to get worse each year.
Her other horse never even had a rug on before she got her but now gets cold if she doesnt have 5 on!!
WishfulThinker
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Beau has a MW stable rug, if ther is a chilly wind he gets a neck rug, if its a nit colder a flece under and thats it. I was always told that too much weight on their backs wasnt good!
Beau was clipped start Nov and doesnt look like he will be needing another one at all. So I guess he is warm, plus he gets 2 tightly packed haynets with the small holes so he is keeping warm.
Bu, if you you go by what they say keeps u warm, many thin layers rather than one big one work best.
Beau was clipped start Nov and doesnt look like he will be needing another one at all. So I guess he is warm, plus he gets 2 tightly packed haynets with the small holes so he is keeping warm.
Bu, if you you go by what they say keeps u warm, many thin layers rather than one big one work best.