Good horse breed for heavy novice rider?

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AdorableAlice, how I would love a sit on that mare! (Sorry for minor hijack OP)

She is a cracker but frighteningly intelligent. She spent two years terrorising her previous owners and then tried it on me. We came to an understanding and I do rather like her now. She looked after me hacking whilst I was having chemo, she seemed to 'know' something was wrong and was not cheeky at all. I am back to health now and she is cheeky again !
 

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Thought I'd post this ad for you OP as he may have disappeared from >> before you see him. Probably too young for you but I'm sure I've seen him on another forum when younger and he's a cracker.

One for AA too I think :)

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/clas...igton/clydesdale-x-hw-cob-gelding-445802.html

I'm afraid we won't be buying just yet! Part loan first, then full loan then ownership, would like to be confident in our abilities before diving in at the deep end. We did want to buy a foal to bring him on ourselves but given comments about bone maturity amongst some breeds not being reached until 7-9 we thought it might be a bit of a stretch having to loan a riding horse in the meantime. I could ride him from being younger but I dont think it would be fair on my OH so next consideration would be a 4/5 year old to back and bring on :)

Suppose I better get searching loan ads to see what we can come up with and in the meantime see if we can help out at a local school so my partner can pick up some tips
 

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I'm afraid we won't be buying just yet! Part loan first, then full loan then ownership, would like to be confident in our abilities before diving in at the deep end.

Suppose I better get searching loan ads to see what we can come up with and in the meantime see if we can help out at a local school so my partner can pick up some tips

You might really, really, REALLY struggle finding a part or full loan! I'm fat but way less than your OH and I'm also a very experienced rider. I couldnt find anything remotely suitable, so I bought my boy. When I got him I idly looked at part loan ads to see if there was anyone suitable. I'm afraid I turned down anyone over 13 stone. I had a couple of 15 stone people but while my boy would be ok with 15 stone of balanced rider for light hacks, these were novices or people wanting to get back into riding. I had 2 17 stone people reply which wouldnt ever be something I would consider no matter how big the horse!

Going by how long their ads have been running, 7 months + in one persons case the big weight carrying horses arent available for part or full loan. I'll be honest, my boys part loaner is 11 stone and I'm happy with that. I expect him to carry my weight, but anyone else I would want to be lighter. Why should I pimp him out to carry weight when theres tons of lighter riders available? I also know I am telling the truth about my weight and am an experienced and balanced rider and I never ever push him. We light hack in walk with the odd bit of trot. I cantered for 4 strides on Thursday and made a post on FB about it, as its that rare. And saying all of that, I am way below his maximum and have a decent synthetic fitted and regular vet checks etc
 

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a 4 or 5yr old wouldn't work either. My little cob is 500kgs and built like the proverbial tank! If he was 7yr old I'd have no issue riding him, but hes 4 rising 5yr old and no way would I get on him. Again, I'm within the 20% guidelines but hes skeletally immature so its not appropriate.

Please dont take this the wrong way, I'm heavy due to being fat not muscular but most owners, even the heavy ones, if they are looking for another rider want a competent one who is relatively light weight.
 

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a 4 or 5yr old wouldn't work either. My little cob is 500kgs and built like the proverbial tank! If he was 7yr old I'd have no issue riding him, but hes 4 rising 5yr old and no way would I get on him. Again, I'm within the 20% guidelines but hes skeletally immature so its not appropriate.

Please dont take this the wrong way, I'm heavy due to being fat not muscular but most owners, even the heavy ones, if they are looking for another rider want a competent one who is relatively light weight.

I think you're getting confused about what I was saying, I wouldn't dream of putting him on a 500kg horse no matter what age it was. Nor would I put him on a 4/5yr old. The point I was making was given 7-9yr bone maturity it wouldn't be sensible or fair for my partner to have to wait 6-8 yrs to ride, when we could get a horse who was 4/5 whose weight/type/conformation etc could be more accurately assessed and my partner would only have to wait a few years to ride (rather than 6). We could get a 9 yr old but I am keen to get a younger horse to bring on myself, to watch him learn and improve as he matures.

Regarding the loan situation we would just have to see what we could get. I have already enquired about a few loan horses locally that he wouldn't be able to ride so that he can be introduced to horses before riding. I don't think he has so much as stepped foot on a yard let alone put one in a stirrup so there really is no rush. I would rather he at least learned the basics of horse care to decide if he could see that as a lifestyle before committing to anything long term.

In the meantime I would be the primary caregiver and rider regardless as my partner lives an hours drive from myself so could only groom/ride/muck out etc on a weekend. If he was going to ride regularly then I wouldn't even waste time looking for a loan horse I would wait until we were living together/closer so we could buy our own and share care duties, because as you say nobody wants a novice who weighs 17 stone riding their horse. However as he is only going to ride once or twice a fortnight (if that) with me riding regularly (I am close to half his weight and a confident rider) then I don't see why we couldn't find a loan horse. Time will tell anyway ha. Baby steps....
 

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Where are you based op? I might know of a place where he could ride.

Shropshire but wouldn't mind travelling every once in a while if it meant he could get a feel for it. I was originally looking at riding holidays on draughts in Cumbria and Scotland but he was over their weight limits by a long shot.
 

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Well things have gone better than expected, after giving up on a part loan for the both of us I decided to find one for just myself to ride with my partner helping out with the care. Found a gorgeous TB that I instantly fell in love with (as did my partner) and the owner herself recommended that my partner try him out as he has carried weight with no problem before. Absolutely thrilled!!!
 

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Well things have gone better than expected, after giving up on a part loan for the both of us I decided to find one for just myself to ride with my partner helping out with the care. Found a gorgeous TB that I instantly fell in love with (as did my partner) and the owner herself recommended that my partner try him out as he has carried weight with no problem before. Absolutely thrilled!!!

Excellent. Some TBs are chunkier than others.
 
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