Gordon Ramsay Gets Dumped On

Almost all "domestic" i.e. ridden horses can't be used for human consumption anyway - Bute is one of the many drugs that mean the horse has to be declared not for human consumption. Not good for humans if ingested. So domestic horses are not food.

Not really keen on the idea of horse meat - I like horses too much. Less interested in sheep/cows/chickens but definitely prefer organic/known origin meat if I can get it.
 
Just because PETA disagreed with the program does not give them the right to act like downright hooligans. I hope they have charges pressed against them. I'm an animal lover and I'm against PETA. Why? Because they are often violent, and outrageous in their methods. Not for me.
 
you cant garantee theses things unfortunatley. I agree with magic melon they did a good job and highlighted this issue to everyone, and got people talking about it and hopefully adding to the vegetarians of the world! (to annoy GR even more)lets hope GR has to make a statement and reveal were this meat came from.
 
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you cant garantee theses things unfortunatley.

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Cant guarantee what?

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lets hope GR has to make a statement and reveal were this meat came from.

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Why should he? Which meat are you refering to anyway .... The horse meat; JSP picked that herself or to the beef?

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I have a pasion for animals valetine, it doesn't mean I go out and break the law. They did a good job? A good job of damage to public property and creating a public nusiance?

Why not stage a silent protest or write some letters? Maybe because they like to be contraversial and I'm afriad a group that will freely break the law and often physically harm people and destroy peoperty in order to get their point across is not a group I will EVER support.
 
And why stop at Gordon Ramsey. Should tv programmes have to state the origin of all the meat they cook? May make things a bit difficult for the supermarket-bought meat that often appears on shows like 'Ready, Steady, Cook'
 
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black hawk they have PASSION and it highlights things like this they dont stand for violence!

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I think there are better ways of making your point / expressing an opinion than dumping horse manure in front of someones establishment
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Why not do what everyone else does when they dont like something - like write a letter.

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And why stop at gordon Ransey. Should tv programmes have to state the origin of all the meat they cook? May make things a bit difficult for the supermarket-bought meat that often appears on shows like 'Ready, Steady, Cook'

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Or Ready Steady Tw*t as GR calls it LMAO

Was just about to say this: Right I had Chicken for my Sunday dinner ... want to know where that came from?!

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As for not standing for violence, three PETA members were in the news here a few months back for driving another persons car off the road, dragging the 80 year old woman driver out and beating her up at the side of the road. Why? She had a countryside alliance sticker on her car.

PETA of course did not organise it, but did they reprimand those members? No. Did they issue a public apology? No. For that they did as good as let it happen.
 
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The point I am trying to reach is for me, I would sooner buy meat that I know or at least I am reassured into feeling that it has had a decent quality of life.

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Agreed. I personally would not want to eat horse, but if we are going purely on animal welfare then I would much rather eat meat from an animal that has had a decent life and been humanely killed then meat from an animal that was intensively farmed and then transported miles in a crowded lorry to be slaughtered.
 
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They approached this issue the way they did so it highlights the problem and attracts media coverage.......

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What JSP went to a farm, picked a horse that it was its job to be reared for meat, was happy grazing and looked in good condition as far as I could tell and sent it off to slaughter. Then the meat arrived and she BBQ'd it?

So youd sooner a van load of knackered horses turn up, pick a crippled mangled one and use that?

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I do agree at the very least he made a point of knowing where your meat comes from. It just seems that horse meat in particluar is always shipped fromcountries, where the standards in thier abbortoirs are frightfull (personnaly). Ill never eat it, just beacuse like i said i cant differentiate horses as food, but if people have to eat them, i hope GR's advice is taken onboard and its done humanely. Not sure it will ever take off personally, we've been eating pigs, cattle and sheep for thousands of years, do we really need to start eating horses now lol. (joke dont jump on me).
 
it is to make people aware of the issues ie treatment , transport surrounding horse meat. i was talking about PETA
 
So why target Gordon Ramsey who certainly did not obtain meat from such sources? Why not target the dodgy kebab van or any other establishment that uses cheap meat from questionable sources. Until PETA can get their facts right and make their point in a more adult way I will not change my opinion of them
 
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You cannot love animals if you are against PETA IMO. All they want is what's best for them.

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Bullsh*t. I am against animal rights activists [not specifically PETA] because of the ridiculous things they encourage and support.

My mum works in a Path lab, where they have an animal department. She doesn't specifically work with them, but its in the same building. On a regular basis people from that building have to watch out for their lives because of animal rights activists doing things like putting razors in envelopes through letterboxes, and all sorts of unpleasant and dangerous things.

Half the time they also do things like release fur farmed mink into the wild where they run amok and destroy the local wildlife.

I am against animals being abused and misused by people, but the way that animal rights extremists go about expressing their feelings is often disgusting and barbaric.
 
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You cannot love animals if you are against PETA

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Oh please.....god that is the funniest thing I have read on here in a very long time, LMAO!! Thanks MM - nice to see you have a wicked sense of humour.
 
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Personally it just seems wrong to me, horses, in my eyes, are not bred soley for food unlike cows ect. Obviously im bias too due to my bond and love for horses. Cows and sheep i can distinguish as "food", horses i see as pets, working animals ect. And having watched a great number of the "horse slaughter" videos on youtube (I wanted to see it for myself) i can honestly say it seriously disturbed me. I know its daft but I cant help thinking that aftercarrying us in so many wars and hardtimes, helping us build the country, they deserve a bit more. It just seems wrong. Id advise anyone with a strong stomach to watch some a few of them before deciding. Just my opinion though, it may be rubbish but hey ho x

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Cows aren't just bred for meat. They were used for draft work long before horses were.

I personally have no problem with horse slaughter if the horse is treated well before slaughter. I'd rather see a horse slaughtered than abused.

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Not sure it will ever take off personally, we've been eating pigs, cattle and sheep for thousands of years, do we really need to start eating horses now lol. (joke dont jump on me).

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What makes you think that? People have always eaten horse.

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In the late palaeolithic (Magdalenian), wild horses formed an important source of food.

In pre-Christian times, horse meat was eaten in northern Europe as part of indigenous Germanic pagan religious ceremonies, particularly those associated with the worship of Odin.

According to legend, the modern French taste for horse meat dates from the Battle of Eylau in 1807, when the surgeon-in-chief of Napoleon's Grand Army, Baron Dominique-Jean Larrey, advised the starving troops to eat the flesh of horses that had died on the battlefield. The cavalry used breastplates as cooking pans and gunpowder as seasoning, and thus founded a tradition.[citation needed]

Horse meat gained widespread acceptance in French cuisine during the later years of the Second French Empire. The high cost of living in Paris prevented many working-class citizens from buying meat such as pork or beef, and in 1866 the first butcher's shop specialising in horse meat opened in eastern Paris, providing quality meat at lower prices. During the Siege of Paris of 1870-71, horse meat was eaten by all citizens of Paris due to a shortage of fresh meat in the blockaded city, and also because live horses were eating vast quantities of grain which was needed by the human populace. Many Parisians gained a taste for horse meat during the siege, and after the war ended, horse meat remained popular amongst Parisian citizens.

Despite the general anglophone taboo, horse and donkey meat was eaten in Britain, especially in Yorkshire, until the 1930s.[2]

During World War II, due to the low supply and high price of beef, the state of New Jersey legalised the sale of horse meat. At war's end, the state again prohibited such sale, possibly in response to pressure from the beef lobby. Although people in the United States rarely eat horse meat, around 50,000 horses are slaughtered each year in one abattoir in Illinois and two in Texas for export to Europe, Mexico, or Japan. Horse meat produced in the U.S. is also sold to zoos for carnivore feeding, due to its high protein content. The 1986 Kentucky Derby winner and 1987 U.S. Eclipse Award for Horse of the Year winner, Ferdinand, is believed to have been slaughtered in Japan, likely for pet food.[3]

Harvard University's Harvard Faculty Club had horse meat on the menu for over one hundred years, until 1983.[4]


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i just think its wrong its like saying that horses have been eatten for a long time so why should we stop..its also like saying, well cats and dogs have been eatten for a long time in china..ect .. so why should they stop eatting them.. to me its wrong..
it dosn't matter if the horses have been bred for meat n well looked after its the way they are slaughtered!!! its ...disturbing!! it really is! no animal bred for meat should be slaughted like that!!!
watching the program last nit made me agrey .. dont jump on me for saying that.. ..as i do have the right to say it!

I spoke recently to a local man who has worked in slaughterhouses, a gruff taciturn individual not given to verbosity, he was relatively unresponsive about most aspects of his job but when I asked him about horse slaughter and how did he feel about it he looked in to the distance pity in his eye, “yes terrible” he said, you could see how frightened they were, neighing, ears back, eyes rolling, they were scared you see, they could smell the blood and sense the fear!

we use a captive bolt if we can get close, if they are quiet, but we use a live bullet if the horse is a bit “nasty” because you can stand further away”

Substitute 'panic stricken' for 'nasty'. Then use your imagination

- Every four minutes, a horse is slaughtered
 
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it dosn't matter if the horses have been bred for meat n well looked after its the way they are slaughtered!!! its ...disturbing!! it really is! no animal bred for meat should be slaughted like that!!!
watching the program last nit made me agrey .. dont jump on me for saying that.. ..as i do have the right to say it!


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Slaughtered like what? I am not denying that cruelty exists in the meat industry but that is not what was shown last night. All of the Gordon Ramsey programmes I have seen have made a point of showing where the meat used comes from and that is not factory farmed animals.

I have said that I personally wouldn't choose to eat horse meat and that may be hypocritical of me given that I eat other meat but I would never criticise anyone else for eating it provided it was from a source like the place shown on the programme last night.

As for eating cat and dog meat, I have no more of a problem with that then any other meat provided it is ethically sourced. Different cultures view animals in different ways.
 
Ahh so interestingly what this research indicates is that eating horse meat is pretty much a 'low class' thing to do. I didn't realise that.
 
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