GRAFENSTOLZ

Eothian in answer to your question Grafs owner is Ken Rehill
i believe he is the one organising the Expo this weekend others will correct me if i am wrong. I do not know the man.
It would appear though that some on here do not like him for there own reasons i am sure.
 
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Does he have any graded sons ???? always a good indication of his youngstock!!!

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The ones presented at Neumunster (Trakehner grading) the last few years havent graded. Not sure if he had one graded with the South German studbook or ZfDP or similar, but not absolutely sure
 
Nothing about graded sonssss
The sire

Grafenstolz TSF is one of the most interesting phenomens in modern warmblood breeding. Approved with a premium in Neumünster, he was sold at auction to South Germany and basically emerged in the 2004 season with Michael Jung in the saddle, competing at A and L levels in eventing. He is the first, and so far only horse in history to qualify for the Bundeschampionat in all three disciplines ini the same year - dressage, show jumping, eventing - and finally competed in eventing. He won that championship Gold medal with the highest score to date (9.2) and only a few months later in the same year, won the FEI World Championships for Young Event Horses in Lion d'Angers/France. Since then, Grafenstolz TSF is a firmly established CIC*** competitor, and as a breeding stallion, has become tremendously popular, also in other warmblood breeds.

In 2007, a son out of his first crop won the Silver medal in the field of 5yr old eventers at the Bundeschampionat, and in 2008, no less than 3 of his offspring qualified for this prestigious event. As outstanding as this may seem, it is well-founded in an exceptional pedigree. Sire EH Polarion is an international Grand Prix dressage stallion for the UK (now stationed at Gestüt Webelsgrund) and the dam, SPS Gispy Lady, is also dam of the mare Gipsy Rose, a full sister to Grafenstolz. In 2007, Gipsy Rose managed to sent both the Champion stallion (Grand Passion) as well as his one year older sister Gipsy Flower II as the National Champion mare to Neumünster. The third dam Grazie II is dam of the ATA's Guy Laroche. The mare family of Gundula has also produced the important stallions Guter Planet and Guter Stern, among others.
 
Thank you for your comment Kimby.

I hesitate to post a vid of my lovely Graf 4 yr old on here - I don't want her pulled apart by anyone predisposed to dislike the stallion, his connections or his offspring
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. However Kimby it may be useful for you to see and on reflection I can take criticism. Bring it on!!!

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5340915/an/0/page/0#5340915
 
Heidiham,

I'd be interested to hear what TYPE of mare did she come from? Was she a TB, was she a cob? was she a competition horse?, and yes I thought she looked to be a very nice youngster!!

Anyway, I wouldn't worry to much about what others think. Whose horse is it? It's yours, and that's what matters.

Alec.
 
A friend of mine has been to the Expo today was not over impressed with the organisation but did like Graf and said he jumped well and was behaved. Our Graf foal is due at end of May and if as nice as Heidihams will be pleased. Mare is a warmblood Zadok/ Nimmerdor very nice temperament .
 
Dam is by Welton Crackerjack out of a Hanoverian Verband approved head stud book (pure tb) mare. She was a master's horse with the Ledbury and trained to advanced medium dressage out of hunt season. Also won several hunt rides so a good alround hunt/competition mare
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Our farrier had an in foal Danehill mare, which whilst in foal, had to be put down. The stallion owners, to their credit, generously returned his stud fee, in total. I realise that this was an exceptional case.

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Not unusual in the TB world!!
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Just came across this comment/thread while looking for something else. I am SO glad to hear this SN - that owners of top TB sires try to be fair and kind to mare owners. I think mare owners frankly get a rather raw deal under most of the usual stud terms.
 
Eothain said:
People said Cruising was hot and that his stock were unrideable. They're nothing of the sort.
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I totally disagree with this. Tonight as it happens I am selling an unrideable Cruising/ Animo stunning looking useless horse for the princely sum of a £1 to a girl who has all the time and patience and youth on her side who thinks she can turn him around where all the professionals can't.
 
Eothain said:
People said Cruising was hot and that his stock were unrideable. They're nothing of the sort.

The stallion Errigal Flight has spent most his life with a bit in his mouth because he'd literally take your arm off. His owner is missing several fingers. ... His stock aren't wicked though!
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I have an Errigal Flight mare. She is lovely with people but eats other horses! The most mareish mare I have ever met. But does that come from her damsire, Olympic Lux?
 
Doubt it. I've a Windgap Blue x Horos mare here and she'd follow you around the yard like a dog. Put her beside another horse and she'd climb the walls to bite at it.

The woman I bought her completely spoiled her as a foal and yearling so I blame that.

Maybe your mare's mother was the dominant mare and now foally albeit grown up, is letting everyone know who's boss?
 
Think it is hormomal. Bred and reared in Ireland, in a big commercial yard. people who don't know her refuse to go in her box due to the kicking and biting of walls. Is actually very easy to deal with but will go to "kill" other horses unless she is in season. Luckily she is a good jumper!
 
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