madmare22
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my little stravinsky filly was reserve eventing foal and her mother came second in the broodmare section despite looking like a bag of bones.
GREAT RESULT AT ADDINGTON
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jaffs
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Woo Hoo!
Well Done
photo's please
Well Done
photo's please
Three
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Excellent news. Congratulations!
ashbank
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Absolutely wonderful news. Stravinsky is an excellent horse, and I think in general the quality of his stock this year has been very high - this is of course pretty much his first "full" foal crop in the UK.
I'm so pleased your filly did so well - and especially thrilled that your mare has been recognised as well - you must be over the moon!
I'm so pleased your filly did so well - and especially thrilled that your mare has been recognised as well - you must be over the moon!
S_N
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Oh you must be floating somewhere high!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!!!
htobago
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Wonderful! Big congratulations!
When you come down to earth, could you share some photos pleeeease?!
When you come down to earth, could you share some photos pleeeease?!
Maesfen
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Great news, congratulations. Zoe must be thrilled her hard work has paid off for you all (have got that one right, haven't I?)
madmare22
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yeah zoe and gemma and her husband at touchwood stud, who had the mare and foal initially, i only brought her home as i didnt think she had qualified for the elite show and as you probably know zoe has been looking after my orphan, she very kindly agreed to help me with this filly and her dam too. i really couldnt have done it without either of them.
ive got a pub and too many horses, really must sell some
ive got a pub and too many horses, really must sell some
Toby773
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Hey perhaps we should all come to your pub and help you celebrate!!
Ciss
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Absolutely wonderful news. Stravinsky is an excellent horse, and I think in general the quality of his stock this year has been very high - this is of course pretty much his first "full" foal crop in the UK.
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Having first seen Stravinsky at his grading in Denmark about 8 or 9 years ago I always knew he would be absolutely ideal for use in the UK (how many successful off-the-track TBs do you know that can do a good GP test too?) and I was always determined that as many people as possible in this country should have access to his bloodlines if it were possible. I suggested him to Natalie Kilpatrick when she was looking for a quality black stallion to use on her coloured Polish mares and she was so delighted with the result that she kept in touch with the owners and immediately he came on the market a couple of years ago we began looking for someone to buy him and bring him here. Congratulations to Paul Wyatt for taking the risk and investing in him (there actually was no risk as he is such a proven stallion although a number of studs are now kicking themselves for not listening to us when we said that an 18 year old multi-graded stallion with a proven competition and race record and successful progeny in 4 European countries was not a commercial risk <ROFL>
and congratualtons to the many mare owners that have used him as well. The only slight irritant is that becuase he has been used for AI purposes (certainly understandable in mainland Europe becuase of the widespread risk of contracting EVA via live cover) Weatherbys won't allow any of his progeny out of TB mares to be registered as TBs <sigh>. Dark ages or what, but I suppose good news for the warmblood and sport horse studbooks he is graded with.
And we know he's good because Ken said that if the French had got there first the UK would never have got him. However, stallion spotting is a long-term thing and right place, right time can sometimes pay better returns than shedloads of money <ROFL>
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I'm so pleased your filly did so well - and especially thrilled that your mare has been recognised as well - you must be over the moon!
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Certainly second that
Absolutely wonderful news. Stravinsky is an excellent horse, and I think in general the quality of his stock this year has been very high - this is of course pretty much his first "full" foal crop in the UK.
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Having first seen Stravinsky at his grading in Denmark about 8 or 9 years ago I always knew he would be absolutely ideal for use in the UK (how many successful off-the-track TBs do you know that can do a good GP test too?) and I was always determined that as many people as possible in this country should have access to his bloodlines if it were possible. I suggested him to Natalie Kilpatrick when she was looking for a quality black stallion to use on her coloured Polish mares and she was so delighted with the result that she kept in touch with the owners and immediately he came on the market a couple of years ago we began looking for someone to buy him and bring him here. Congratulations to Paul Wyatt for taking the risk and investing in him (there actually was no risk as he is such a proven stallion although a number of studs are now kicking themselves for not listening to us when we said that an 18 year old multi-graded stallion with a proven competition and race record and successful progeny in 4 European countries was not a commercial risk <ROFL>
and congratualtons to the many mare owners that have used him as well. The only slight irritant is that becuase he has been used for AI purposes (certainly understandable in mainland Europe becuase of the widespread risk of contracting EVA via live cover) Weatherbys won't allow any of his progeny out of TB mares to be registered as TBs <sigh>. Dark ages or what, but I suppose good news for the warmblood and sport horse studbooks he is graded with.And we know he's good because Ken said that if the French had got there first the UK would never have got him. However, stallion spotting is a long-term thing and right place, right time can sometimes pay better returns than shedloads of money <ROFL>
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I'm so pleased your filly did so well - and especially thrilled that your mare has been recognised as well - you must be over the moon!
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Certainly second that
sallyf
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The only slight irritant is that becuase he has been used for AI purposes (certainly understandable in mainland Europe becuase of the widespread risk of contracting EVA via live cover) Weatherbys won't allow any of his progeny out of TB mares to be registered as TBs <sigh>. Dark ages or what, but I suppose good news for the warmblood and sport horse studbooks he is graded with.
This isnt strictly true.
If the stallion covers a TB mare naturally his stock from those coverings will be eligable to be registered with Weatherbys the same as mine and everyones elses TB stallions.
Both of mine duel cover Natural and AI but the TB mares who we natural cover there foals are all registered with Weatherbys.
True stock from previous years that were concievd by AI are not eligable for registration with Weatherbys but then again the customers should have known that before using that stalion.
It really isnt that dfficult the massive racing industry seem to manage with natural cover without any problems and some of these stallions can cover over 300 mares in a year.
EVA isnt an excuse either how do the big TB studs in Germany and France manage ,well they test for EVA
This isnt strictly true.
If the stallion covers a TB mare naturally his stock from those coverings will be eligable to be registered with Weatherbys the same as mine and everyones elses TB stallions.
Both of mine duel cover Natural and AI but the TB mares who we natural cover there foals are all registered with Weatherbys.
True stock from previous years that were concievd by AI are not eligable for registration with Weatherbys but then again the customers should have known that before using that stalion.
It really isnt that dfficult the massive racing industry seem to manage with natural cover without any problems and some of these stallions can cover over 300 mares in a year.
EVA isnt an excuse either how do the big TB studs in Germany and France manage ,well they test for EVA
Ciss
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If I PM'd you Paul's e-mail do you think you could explain all this to him as he certainly does seem to be having a great deal of trouble with Weatherbys about it?
The way to prevent EVA is of course to test for it but it is pretty endemic in soem strands of WB mares -- and some stallions are EVA positive too -- so it is much harder to police for that sector in mainland Europe, given that the vaccine is also pretty difficult to obtain too.
The way to prevent EVA is of course to test for it but it is pretty endemic in soem strands of WB mares -- and some stallions are EVA positive too -- so it is much harder to police for that sector in mainland Europe, given that the vaccine is also pretty difficult to obtain too.
sallyf
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Yes sure but basically all he has to do is .
For the mares he wants to AI get covering certificates from whichever warmblood society he is using eg SHB and then just apply to Weatherbys for covering certificates for the mares that are being natural covered.
You do have to sign that the mare has only been natural covered .
I would think that one of the biggest issues is that the stallion stands at an AI centre which they could be suspicious about which i can understand.
If the stallion has never been registered with one of the racing authorities as a stallion he may need to upgrade him as a working stallion which is possible as he has always covered warmbloods and they may not have bothered.
The form that Weatherbys sends out for covering certificates is very easy you just tick that the stallion also covers by AI and then on the individual covering certificates you indicate which mares have been AI'd and which have been natural covered.
Weatherbys has as of this year have stopped issuing proper covering certificates for mares that are AI'd hence why i say that the AI mares should get there covering certificates elsewhere.
They are issuing a form of some sort for AI mares although i dont know what as mine havnt come yet.
For the mares he wants to AI get covering certificates from whichever warmblood society he is using eg SHB and then just apply to Weatherbys for covering certificates for the mares that are being natural covered.
You do have to sign that the mare has only been natural covered .
I would think that one of the biggest issues is that the stallion stands at an AI centre which they could be suspicious about which i can understand.
If the stallion has never been registered with one of the racing authorities as a stallion he may need to upgrade him as a working stallion which is possible as he has always covered warmbloods and they may not have bothered.
The form that Weatherbys sends out for covering certificates is very easy you just tick that the stallion also covers by AI and then on the individual covering certificates you indicate which mares have been AI'd and which have been natural covered.
Weatherbys has as of this year have stopped issuing proper covering certificates for mares that are AI'd hence why i say that the AI mares should get there covering certificates elsewhere.
They are issuing a form of some sort for AI mares although i dont know what as mine havnt come yet.
springfallstud
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Well done, i saw your mare and foal but didnt get to meet you
Anastasia
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FANTASTIC RESULTS for you Madmare, that is just superb! WELL DONE YOU.
firm
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Well done
volatis
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that's a super result for you madmare. You must be ove the moon.