Greyhound lovers please sign...

http://www.londonderrysentinel.co.uk/news/Horrific-39neglect39-case.6001915.jp

So I am glad to see they have homegrown cases as a priority also.

Here is one of the boys in a rescue I support - the man brings them in when he is done with them, without even names, they are always '1,2,3,4'.
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Can you elaborate on the cruelty involved?
I have seen Galgo Espagnol at work and play and while yes, they are working dogs, I have never seen them mistreated.
I see a lot about quarantine on the greyhounds in need site - why are they not passported?!
 
The greyhounds come from Ireland mainly ,are raced for a season then alot killed in not very nice ways. It is not the norm to race them two season. They are raced 2-3 a week, even with broken legs, the vet is quoted as saying a greyhound will race due to overiding instinct and not feel pain till the end. Look further in their archives there is some horrible stuff try the link when you go onto 2007
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http://www.greyhoundsinneed.com/ReferenceFrame.htm
 
The greyhounds in Spain, come from Ireland? Galgo Espagnol are a seperate breed, I thought.

And why quarantining to bring them here, as opposed to the Pet Passport?

That's interesting about racing with broken legs, I would not have thought that was possible or cost effective to the owner/the dogs interest, surely it would be hard for a crippled dog to win.
The website says the Galgos are for coursing, not racing?
 
I didnt know a thing about the Galgo Espagnol till i saw pics on there, says they do coursing. I dont know why they dont do pet passports either? I dont think the interests of the dog are top of the list out there. How cute is that wire haired Galgos!
says about them...
We are mostly volunteers with other jobs and careers, working for the greyhounds in our spare time. GIN is a member of the International and London Greyhound Forums, chaired by the Dogs' Trust and comprised, amongst others, of representatives of the major animal welfare groups such as the R.S.P.C.A., I.S.P.C.A., Battersea Dogs and Cats Home, Blue Cross, as well as members of The British Greyhound Racing Board and National Greyhound Racing Club.

We work in collaboration with greyhound lovers abroad who publicise the plight of the greyhounds and galgos and help promote their cause and their adoption.
 
Yes, I saw the site.

Sorry, I got confused, the petition is about coursing Galgos in Spain, they are a separate breed, like the Podenco or Sloughi, all greyhound types with their own distinct bloodlines, then you mentioned Ireland, then racing!

The problems in Ireland are well documented and people are still working hard to try and make the situation better by campaigning and supporting/rehoming from rescues, including many on this forum.

Pet Passports would mean that the dogs could get here relatively quickly rather than spending a long period in quarantine and the expense that it entails.
 
The Plight of Greyhounds.



Some 14,000 greyhounds are bred every year in Ireland. Annually, 1000 are exported to Spain;

sadly there are some of 'our' dogs aswell as their galgos needing help out there
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I don't think it is a very well written petition, all it does is to ask people to sign the petition to ''end the barbaric treatment of greyhounds in Spain'' but, as CaveCanem mentioned, it doesn't say what sort of barbaric treatment? I want it to be clear what I suppport/are against, <u>before</u> I sign something.
This petition doesn't even clearly say it is specifically about racing, personally I would want it to specifically mention what about the greyhound racing they are against (if it is what the petition are against?). I'm not against all greyhound racing, I'm against certain aspects about e.g. how the dogs are taken care of after their carrier etc.


Besides, I don't like how Greyhound in need portrays Galgo Espanol as an ideal pet, yes they are usually very pleasant indoors but as far as I know, outdoors they are not for everyone, even those who are fabulously obedient, still usually becomes 100% deaf if they see a rabbit or something similar run away out on an off the lead walk. And in comparison to the greyhound, the Galgo Espanol is bred to be a long distance runner, so once they've run away from you... In Sweden, I've read breeders say, that they tell puppy buyers that the breed can only be off lead in well fenced in areas.
 
Done.

Personally, I will sign a million petitions against animal cruelty even if it prevents just one animal from being mistreated. I don't need to know the specifics of the cruelty, just that it exists. I've been aware of the mistreatment of greyhounds in Ireland for years and still it continues.

Good luck with the petition.
 
I think there are probably enough greyhounds over here in need of help to be honest. Haven't looked properly at the site so will reserve judgement till I have, but would think might be better to just try and persuade them to pts humanely . There are worse things that can happen to animals at the end of their working lives.
 
The problem of the treatment of greyhounds and galagos (sp?) in Spain is very well known in greyhound rescue circles - a large number of the dogs used in Spain are from England and Ireland, and are exported to race over there. They seem to use the words 'greyhound' and 'galago' indescriminately when describing these dogs IMHO?

The dogs most certainly do have a terrible life over there, and at the end of their careers are destroyed in the most appallingly inhumane ways - I have seen photographs of dogs hung from trees to die, in rows of half a dozen or more
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I completely agree with MM that the kindest option would be to humanely PTS any dog at the end of its career, but since we are apparently incapable of doing that in the UK I am not sure why we think we can persuade the Spanish government to adopt this policy
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There has been so much emotive reporting in the English press when someone is found to be humanely despatching greyhounds using a bolt gun and disposing of them for trainers/owners - I have never had a problem with this, I would far rather they were PTS in this way than abused, dumped and abandoned as so many are
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Unsurprisingly I feel very strongly about this
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I remember the furore when it was discovered what that chap was doing, totally agree with you that it is far better they are humanely destroyed albeit with a bolt gun, than dumped etc.
As you say, we need to put our own house in order first, which is what I was rather clumsily trying to say. Thats what comes from typing a quick answer before taking dogs out.
 
signing this petition doesn't cost you anything but a few minutes. In the UK we have procedures and relevant services regarding the welfare of animals for which I am thankful and many compassionate individuals who attempt to halt the suffering of animals whom I applaud. Unfortunately, Spain and other countries in the EU including Ireland are way behind in terms of the welfare of their animals. I support anyone who tries to stop cruelty whichever part of the world they are in.
 
BS - I cannot speak for Spain, but this isn't some sort of third world country and people are working very hard to change things. We're less than an hour away from London, by plane, yes, there have been some horrific cases but no different to those seen North of the border and in England, Scotland and Wales.

Sorry, just a bit bored of hearing how we ALL beat our hairy cobs/greyhounds/ with sticks and starve them before they are sent across the water, I seem to be reading this on here a lot
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Gazey, thanks for your input, you're the kind of person I was talking about
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I think Galgo is synonymous with greyhound, sighthound in Spain. I don't have a problem with dogs being euthanized either, <u>if</u> they've had a good life, been treated well and allowed to do what they are born to do, I doubt that the dogs knows the life expectancies for Greyhounds.


For me personally, it does matter what sort of animal cruelty I'm against and how I want to change it, look at the people managing to get a ban against horse slaughter in USA, their horses are still sold to slaughter but now they are shipped to Mexico or Canada instead = much longer travels and no control over how slaughter houses in those foreign countries do their work. To me that doesn't sound as an improvement.

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My post wasn't meant to be construed as anti-Irish. Far from it, I have friends and family who are Irish and I certainly did not imply that Ireland was a third world country. But in terms of animal welfare they are behind compared to the UK.

I am sure there are many people in Ireland striving to improve animal welfare and I applaud them.
 
Can you illustrate how we are behind in terms of animal welfare? Just interested, I might learn something new, as I have already on this thread!

As I say, sure there are too many neglect cases (I have seen the links and read the reports), we seem to have a hell of a lot of puppy farms and there are lots of cases where the right hand doesn't know what the left is doing in terms of agency communication, but the same can be said in many places in the rest of the British Isles.
 
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I think Galgo is synonymous with greyhound, sighthound in Spain. I don't have a problem with dogs being euthanized either, <u>if</u> they've had a good life, been treated well and allowed to do what they are born to do, I doubt that the dogs knows the life expectancies for Greyhounds.


For me personally, it does matter what sort of animal cruelty I'm against and how I want to change it, look at the people managing to get a ban against horse slaughter in USA, their horses are still sold to slaughter but now they are shipped to Mexico or Canada instead = much longer travels and no control over how slaughter houses in those foreign countries do their work. To me that doesn't sound as an improvement.

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That is a really good example of how campaigning sometimes really doesnt achieve the results it wants to FL, I shall remember that one for future use
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I would definitely agree with that CC, purely in terms of my experiences with rescue greyhounds.

Both my two greyhounds are Irish, and I know exactly why that is - when greyhounds are dumped in Ireland they tend to go to dog pounds which (please correct me if I am wrong CC!) tend to have a euthanasia-after-x-days policy?

Whereas when they are dumped in England/Wales/Scotland (hmmm, not sure about Scotland actually) they are rescued and put into rescue kennels ad infinitum until the poor bu**gers find a home or die of old age or illness
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As I have said above, I do not have a problem with euthanasia, but greyhound rescue organisations over here seem to get very distressed about it and say that they 'must rescue these dogs' at all costs
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To me, the Irish solution is the practical one harsh as it seems
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http://www.indymedia.ie/article/87933

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So how exactly does that differ from the animal welfare bill fairly recently passed in England? Or the endless inquiries funded by the Kennel Club (e.g. the Bateson inquiry) regarding breeding of dogs in England, and showing? I am confused as to why Ireland is considered to be so much worse in terms of welfare, the stories I have encountered about rescue greyhounds are certainly not restricted to abuse in Ireland, LOTS of people abuse them in England too
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And people also export them to Spain to race....
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That's about an update to the legislation? All legislation gets updated every so often.
Back when I was a little newbie journo, the greyhound fraternity were trying to have the breed included as part of DARD's remit as the animals were the basis of such a big industry. Are greyhounds/greyhound issues covered by DEFRA?

Gazey, the council pounds destroy after a certain period of days. That fella up there ^^^^ stunning as he is, is one of a huge number brought to that particular no-kill place when they are done racing, the have the guy on speed dial and he turns up every few months. It's just what he does.
There are more greys and staffies in there than any other breeds.
 
That doesnt surprise me CC - well actually, the staffies never fail to surprise me, because I never seem to see any of them around, obviously they are ALL in rescue in England and Ireland
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I wont bother saying it all over again about euthanasia - I shall never make a fluffy bunny will I
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Good job really with 3 sighthounds in close proximity to me
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Why are you fixating on the Irish? I merely stated in a previous post that in terms of welfare many countries in the EU including Ireland are behind the UK. Even the DSPCA say and I quote "The absence of modern legislation in the area of Animal Welfare has resulted in a complete dereliction of our duty to animals in this country. The main piece of legislation pending that is long-overdue and it is essential that government ensure their implementation"
 
At no point have I stated that animal cruelty doesn't exist in the UK. That would be absurd. Of course we have evil gits in the UK, human nature is the same the world over. I just support individuals that are attempting to make a difference, I cannot see why that has irritated a few of you.
 
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I'm not irritated and i doubt GH is either - we like a good ole debate on AAD
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Greyhounds are better than GSDs, so there
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Nooooo only joking there really
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